Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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So let me get this straight. For the last couple years, the HSA was getting worse and worse to try and weed people off of it. Now they want everyone on the HSA so the solution is to make the HRA as bad as possible so we will be forced to the HSA? The contractual plan rose 20 percent last year from $400/month to $480/month. If it does another 20 percent, it will be $576/month next year. I didn't look so I'm not sure that's accurate. What I'm getting at is even at our salaries, insurance is starting to become unaffordable.
Good question. At least it gives our reps more issues to consider as they determine our ultimate path. For example, will we come out ahead if we retain or increase our share of "at risk" compensation, e.g., profit sharing, or would we be better off taking some risk off the table by cashing more in?
Before anyone accuses me of having an agenda of any sort, recall that I have advocated on these boards for an increase in "at risk" compensation, under the assumption that we'll do better in good times than we would with less "at risk," albeit not so well in bad. I don't know that I've changed my mind, but when smarter people than I put out various points of analysis, I do consider them.
Before anyone accuses me of having an agenda of any sort, recall that I have advocated on these boards for an increase in "at risk" compensation, under the assumption that we'll do better in good times than we would with less "at risk," albeit not so well in bad. I don't know that I've changed my mind, but when smarter people than I put out various points of analysis, I do consider them.
Why do you keep floating concessions when the company is making billions.
NO reduction in profit sharing. YES to pay and QOL increases.
Why are people even talking about concessions?
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So let me get this straight. For the last couple years, the HSA was getting worse and worse to try and weed people off of it. Now they want everyone on the HSA so the solution is to make the HRA as bad as possible so we will be forced to the HSA? The contractual plan rose 20 percent last year from $400/month to $480/month. If it does another 20 percent, it will be $576/month next year. I didn't look so I'm not sure that's accurate. What I'm getting at is even at our salaries, insurance is starting to become unaffordable.
You can thank the "affordable care act" (obamacare) for this
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So, can somebody tell me where I'm missing something here? How does a NYC 717 FO hired about a month ago get out of his/her seat lock to hold ATL 7ER FO?
My first thought was displacement, but I thought we were expanding the 717 in NYC.
Cheers
My first thought was displacement, but I thought we were expanding the 717 in NYC.
Cheers
At the end of the "end game", all of our other sections are TA'd, the last discussion is Section 3. You've negotiated most of the pay rate increases.... the company says "for the last 4% raise you want, we don't want to be locked into a structure that high in case things turn south..."
They offer 3% in fixed rates
OR
to increase the PS plan equal to 5% more.
What do you do as the negotiator?
The company can waive freezes any time they want to. Bid what you want at all times.
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I called my rep and asked about this specifically. He gave me the same answer that I was expecting when I sent you the PM last week.
Nothing nefarious is going on. It's a large event that requires a support structure to operate. The Delta MEC sponsors the charity (fund raising) golf tournament, and the pilot you are referring to has been tasked with organizing. He has also apparently done the programming to handle the incoming donations, and should be on site to handle the inevitable "glitches" that pop up.
Now you are free to disagree with the MEC's decision to put on a charitable golf event, but the proper channel to raise that concern is via your reps. I personally don't have a problem with it now that I've gotten the details - I've seen firsthand how much work is involved with organizing a large event like this, and don't find it unreasonable that we send support for an event that we are sponsoring. YMMV.
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Also, I was moving from days with worse coverage to days with better coverage.
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Good question. At least it gives our reps more issues to consider as they determine our ultimate path. For example, will we come out ahead if we retain or increase our share of "at risk" compensation, e.g., profit sharing, or would we be better off taking some risk off the table by cashing more in?
Before anyone accuses me of having an agenda of any sort, recall that I have advocated on these boards for an increase in "at risk" compensation, under the assumption that we'll do better in good times than we would with less "at risk," albeit not so well in bad. I don't know that I've changed my mind, but when smarter people than I put out various points of analysis, I do consider them.
Before anyone accuses me of having an agenda of any sort, recall that I have advocated on these boards for an increase in "at risk" compensation, under the assumption that we'll do better in good times than we would with less "at risk," albeit not so well in bad. I don't know that I've changed my mind, but when smarter people than I put out various points of analysis, I do consider them.
Obviously the inside admin guys are not ready to give up on getting RA our concessions.
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