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Old 10-28-2014, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067 View Post
Yes. I by 1st class tickets for my parents a couple times a year and it has always been cheaper just to buy on delta.com. Buy confirmed less always demands a few hundred dollars more per ticket. Experiment with it and see for yourself. The norm for me is that It's almost always a better deal on delta.com. My results are skewed due to the fact that I'm buying my parents tickets over holidays and busy travel times. I'm not saying there aren't opportunities to save $$ thru BCFL, but I always seem to strike out on that option.
Interesting. I have gone to delta.com first and checked the flights with the exact flight numbers and noted the price. I then go into the "confirmed for less" and plugged in the same flight numbers and dates, and I get the discount off of that.

Are you seeing higher fares with the exact flights and dates than what is showing up in travelnet?
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:31 PM
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^^^^This!

I've heard of guys faxing documents in and, due to Murphy's Law, the documents were inadvertently fed in upside down. They got a confirmation that X number of pages were successfully sent. Unfortunately they were all blank pages.

If I'm sending something to the company (Jury Summons, Medical Certificate, Sick Verification, etc) I scan it and email it with a BCC to myself. That gives me a clear record of what I sent, when I sent it and who specifically I sent it to.
Also note, the Company is requesting/requiring a Legal Duty Leave Form found on the Pilots Leaves Dept site. About six months ago it was in an Update that this form needed to accompany any Jury Summons. If you are selected make sure you find this form make sure it accompanies your Summons.

I urge everyone to become familiar with it, as completing this process will ensure contractual protections and compensation for your jury service. (There is a nice explanation about it when you select the hotlink)

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Old 10-28-2014, 05:00 PM
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Protect your kittens, boys and girls. The SWA345 transcript is out.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/do...193&mkey=87548

Not as juicy as I thought it would be, but it did have some interesting twists that I wasn't expecting.
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:45 PM
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Did they really pay that captain to go away?
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:16 PM
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No Moon Pies on the ISS this month. Any chicks up there? I hope they don't run out of.... aw, you know, stuff....
Lets outsource our rockets to Ukrainians building to soviet specs during a war with said soviets. Coordination should be optimal. What could go wrong with that plan?

It would be comical if not for the fact these things can be dangerous and cost a lot of money.

How about jobs for Americans? Just saying.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Protect your kittens, boys and girls. The SWA345 transcript is out.

Document 2 Materials Laboratory 15 - Factual Report 13-062 (with 6 embedded images) Filing Date August 27, 2013 5 page(s) of Image (PDF or TIFF) 0 Photos

Not as juicy as I thought it would be, but it did have some interesting twists that I wasn't expecting.
Wouldn't a go-around have sufficed?

I don't know the specifics but how experienced was the FO?
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:47 PM
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Utah company offers unlimited vacation and 'no-fear' culture | KSL.com

That's what I want for C2015. Our Co-workers at Virgin Atlantic have the same type plan.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:02 PM
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And in other news, Jose Canseco just "accidentally" shot himself in the hand cleaning his gun. Does anybody else remember the ball bouncing off his head for a home run?

Carry on.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:10 PM
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And in other news, Jose Canseco just "accidentally" shot himself in the hand cleaning his gun. Does anybody else remember the ball bouncing off his head for a home run?

Carry on.
How old is he now?

Perhaps he's senile?

All the drugs, all the fastballs to the head, that stuff adds up after awhile.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:14 PM
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I have to disagree here, based on actual experience. The written stuff sounds good, I was even talked into buying some--worst mistake.

Don't believe these things can actually ever be refunded, no matter what the fine print leads you to believe. The written rules say these are refundable if the ticket rules say so, when buying the "Fly for Less"-- (NOT the "Fly for Even Less", always non-refundable). HOWEVER...
- you must work through special non-rev agents on the tickets, not normal Delta reservationists
- I bought one of these after 20 minutes on phone with agent looking at the fare rules to be ABSOLUTELY SURE it was refundable. When I later needed to refund it, the special agent refused to even look at the fare rules, told me flat out it was non-refundable within 5 seconds. When I pressed her about it, trying to ask her to actually LOOK at the fare rules, she said she had already told me the answer, and she then threatened me, stating that she would have my non-rev privileges revoked if I continued to argue and disagree with her.
- I ended up losing the $$ for the entire family's vacation, 5 tickets, around $2400, because I had 3 kids sick unable to fly and had to cancel ahead of time.
- After months and months of working through the system with all my paperwork proof of original refundable fare rules (printed right non the receipts!), I finally was able to get a "refund" like 6 months later... MINUS THE $150 change fees each way per ticket, $300 per person X 5-- that's right, the "refund" was shortened by $1500 because I "changed the ticket" by NOT FLYING IT even though I cancelled early so Delta could sell the seats!!
- You WILL NOT be treated as a paying customer. You WILL NOT be treated under the published rules. You WILL NOT be treated fairly. These are not normal agents, these are folks who only work with employees and don't see you as a paying customer with rights.
- I have never been treated so rudely and unfairly by a company as I was by my own company in this situation, as if I had no expectation of them having to follow the published rules because I could be threatened as an employee. It remains my primary data point on how I can expect to be treated as a Delta customer, unfortunately.
- Someone will get on here and say "I bought them and flew them, great deal no problem!"... fine, as non-refundable tickets they're ok. But it's like saying "I played russian roulette and it worked out totally fine, do it!"

DO NOT PURCHASE a "Fly For Less" ticket if you have any possibility whatsoever of actually having to try to refund it. If you treat it as a throwaway non-refundable (so get the fly for Even Less ones) they're ok, but not really much cheaper than what you might find elsewhere.
Had something very similar a couple years ago with my wife. Her 80+ year old mom fell and broke her back the day after she arrived for a 2 week visit. She ended up having to stay for 6 weeks, so called a week into the visit to change the ticket. After $150 change fee (which I could have done on TravelNet) and additional flight fee, it was cheaper for her to fly back on Continental. Bottom line, depending on the fare class, you are treated like only other pax. If you buy full fare, then you most likely will get a refund, but always remember that change fee
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