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They have? The only changes I've seen since the late '90s was going down to a 9-month freeze for going 7ER to 765 and imposing a 1-year freeze on new-hires.

Did I miss something?

Alan Shore

11-03-2014 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1757571)

Banding is a concession.

I wonder if M88 guys who could be brought up to 73N rates or 330 guys who could be brought up to 777 rates would agree with that. :cool:

Purple Drank

11-03-2014 03:40 AM

Pay banding = fewer pilots = fewer captains = concession

You knew that, though

Alan Shore

11-03-2014 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1757587)

Pay banding = fewer pilots

Not if you offset it with more vacation, training pay, etc. so that you need just as many pilots as before.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1757587)

fewer pilots = fewer captains

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1757587)

fewer captains = concession

Not necessarily. For me, at least, upgrading to a larger piece of equipment or to Captain is all about the pay. If I can get that higher pay without upgrading, what have I lost by delaying that upgrade?

scambo1

11-03-2014 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1757568)

We had a 3 year freeze. It's gone down to two. UAL has their equipment banded into 4 categories. If we did the same I am sure the company will give us the same freeze policy. I am not sure if you are in the bottom half of the list you will like that.

We had a 1 year freeze.

Dude, quit squirming for crumbs.

scambo1

11-03-2014 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1757582)

I wonder if M88 guys who could be brought up to 73N rates or 330 guys who could be brought up to 777 rates would agree with that. :cool:

Those are aberrations that should be corrected, not pay banding.

Purple Drank

11-03-2014 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1757590)

Not if you offset it with more vacation, training pay, etc. so that you need just as many pilots as before

Sounds cost-neutral to me

Timbo

11-03-2014 04:48 AM

We already have pay banding, most of us just don't want to see any fewer bands.

The company on the other hand, would love to have just one big pay band, and then get rid of about 10% of the total pilots, the ones currently tied up in training for upgrades to higher paying equipment.

And SF, when did we ever have a 3 year seat lock?

Alan Shore

11-03-2014 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1757591)

We had a 1 year freeze.

He's right. We had a 1-year freeze in C2K and went to 2 years in LOA46.

Alan Shore

11-03-2014 05:08 AM

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