DTW, NYC and MSP ERB are behind the backdoor. Refinery made 16 million in Q3.

lax 7ERB avail back door.

Question: with the 747s leaving, can the new 330s coming do routes like jfk-hnl Dtw-nrt? Or will those routes have to be done by the 777 or any airplane not ordered yet

Heard the 76 is gonna do JFK-HNL

Frontier Air puts 6 crew on leave as precaution amid Ebola worry

5 hours ago


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Frontier Airlines said six crew members were placed on paid leave for 21 days "out of an abundance of caution," after learning that a nurse who had treated an Ebola victim may have been symptomatic when she flew on the airline earlier this week.

The leave affects two pilots and four flight attendants aboard flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth on Oct. 13, which carried a Texas nurse who later tested positive for the deadly virus, Frontier said in statement late Wednesday.

The Centers for Disease Control had informed the airline Wednesday that the nurse "may have been symptomatic earlier than initially suspected, including the possibility of possessing symptoms while on board the flight," the statement said.

The nurse, Amber Vinson, 29, was isolated immediately after reporting a fever on Tuesday, Texas Department of State Health Services officials said. She had treated Liberian patient Thomas Eric Duncan, who died of Ebola on Oct. 8 and was the first patient diagnosed with the virus in the United States.

(Reporting by Alwyn Scott; Editing by Bernadette Baum)

The AFAs response, last night.

Ebola Case on Domestic Flight ? Information, Support, Protections - Association of Flight Attendants-CWA

ALPAs response, seven days ago. Can't find anything since.

ALPA News Release



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Basically this.

Is there a virulent threat potentially aboard aircraft? Very small, but not inconceivable

Is that threat potential greater on a Lagos trip. Arguably yes.

Before you step into that lav on that Lagos to US flight, in which the passenger just vomited in, would you want some prophylactic protection or risk management guidelines? Minimum, gloves.......just like the ones the ICE agent will be wearing when you hand him your passport once you land? Or, appropriate antiseptic gel provided on the aircraft/cockpit/ or for crew members?

Remember, Frontier cleaned that airplane thoroughly 4 times now and replaced all the seat cushions.

Feeling lucky? Gloves now or no gloves, at a minimum?

Ok. 8 days later after coming back from Lagos, you get a fever, sick, flu like symptoms. Yes, probably the flu, but are you going to get it checked out? If one gets quarantined, how is that covered. What about your family?

No need for hype, however it appears it's time for a discussion with DAL and ALPA.

Just saw on the news that there is an impending Executive Order calling out the National Guard to ebola ravaged areas.

Yeah - it's part of the NRT overfly thing. Smaller planes doing the thinner routes....



Or, I'm SLC 7ERB now and haven't updated my profile yet ;)


Seriously though - PBS could have built me a regular line, but didn't. People senior to me were being giving coverage trips starting on Sunday to the 30th. One of those trips (or one of the other un-awarded 30th trips) could have gone to me along with one of the long Asias and still kept me within the LCW.

Dallas or west Africa?

Yes, the 330 has already done DTW-NRT, JFK-HNL could be accomplished by the 332