Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-14-2014, 12:02 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Position: On the hotel shuttle
Posts: 5,822
Originally Posted by Timbo
You mean you DON'T?? 
(I'm guessing my briefings are too brief.)
11-14-2014, 12:05 PM
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,728
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Sorry. If I only would remember to brief what I'm supposed to brief, I wouldn't forget to brief so much.
(I'm guessing my briefings are too brief.)
(I'm guessing my briefings are too brief.)
"First I'd like to hear about your Warts, then your Nats, and then we'll talk about your Lavs, and then your Ptsd and VD."
11-14-2014, 12:06 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,113
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Yes. The question is: Why? Do we brief what we go-around for on every trip?
As I said earlier, part of the objective is for the Captain to review what he will and will NOT abort for. Delta evidently is concerned that they abort too easily. If we start going-around spontaneously for no good reason, expect go-around briefings. Delta also lets the Captains choose how they will handle the actual abort, and especially what happens after the decision is made. I can think of several permutations to the maneuver that I've heard routinely over the years.
There are other reasons to brief it:
1) Captains might not feel like anyone listens to them at home, so this is their big moment.
2) FO's with young children might feel like they never have time to tune out the world, and enjoy an introspective minute.
3) NewK uses it to let the aircraft know what it WILL do.
11-14-2014, 12:14 PM
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,728
Originally Posted by Sink r8
And I bet you think this song about you, don't you? As I said earlier, part of the objective is for the Captain to review what he will and will NOT abort for. Delta evidently is concerned that they abort too easily. If we start going-around spontaneously for no good reason, expect go-around briefings.
Delta also lets the Captains choose how they will handle the actual abort, and especially what happens after the decision is made. I can think of several permutations to the maneuver that I've heard routinely over the years.
There are other reasons to brief it:
1) Captains might not feel like anyone listens to them at home, so this is their big moment.
2) FO's with young children might feel like they never have time to tune out the world, and enjoy an introspective minute.
3) NewK uses it to let the aircraft know what it WILL do.
As I said earlier, part of the objective is for the Captain to review what he will and will NOT abort for. Delta evidently is concerned that they abort too easily. If we start going-around spontaneously for no good reason, expect go-around briefings. Delta also lets the Captains choose how they will handle the actual abort, and especially what happens after the decision is made. I can think of several permutations to the maneuver that I've heard routinely over the years.
There are other reasons to brief it:
1) Captains might not feel like anyone listens to them at home, so this is their big moment.
2) FO's with young children might feel like they never have time to tune out the world, and enjoy an introspective minute.
3) NewK uses it to let the aircraft know what it WILL do.
I've condensed all my briefings into a catchy rap, makes it easier for me to repeat quickly. I add all the things we are going to do on the layover, and I try to work in what we'll talk about in the cockpit as well; politics, religion, education, gun control, weed, going to the beach, what we'll drink, etc. I know I have a funny New Hampshire accent that is hard to understand, so I've included the words for you,
Welcome to Jam Brief (it's all you need to know):
Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock (Lyrics) - YouTube
Oh, and I always finish with, "I'm the most laid back guy you'll ever fly with..."
That helps set everyone at ease.
Last edited by Timbo; 11-14-2014 at 12:31 PM.
11-14-2014, 12:35 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 757 Left
Posts: 1,306
Originally Posted by Timbo
There is.
I just stick my index finger up my butt and then rub the cups with the juice...
Works great, lasts a long time.
"Mmmm...Nutty Flavor!"
I just stick my index finger up my butt and then rub the cups with the juice...
Works great, lasts a long time.
"Mmmm...Nutty Flavor!"
11-14-2014, 12:36 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: retired
Posts: 560
Originally Posted by MCFlyer
As a new FO, I appreciate a detailed abnormals/abort brief on the first leg of a trip. I also think it's worthwhile to re-visit the abnormals on subsequent legs. It takes very little time and sets a professional tone.
'Approaching Inbound Course' and 'Approaching Vertical Path' are also fine callouts IMHO.
What I really wish I could do as the pilot flying is configure the gear and flaps myself. It seems like everytime I want to want to configure, the Captain is talking to ATC, which causes unnecessary delays in configuring. But then again, it's probably just me...
MCFlyer
'Approaching Inbound Course' and 'Approaching Vertical Path' are also fine callouts IMHO.
What I really wish I could do as the pilot flying is configure the gear and flaps myself. It seems like everytime I want to want to configure, the Captain is talking to ATC, which causes unnecessary delays in configuring. But then again, it's probably just me...
MCFlyer
11-14-2014, 12:37 PM
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,728
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Did you then use that finger to "clean off" the onboard boom mike? Last one I used smelled a little funny.
To use the ship set would just be gross!
11-14-2014, 12:42 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 757 Left
Posts: 1,306
Originally Posted by Timbo
That's why I use my own headset!
To use the ship set would just be gross!
To use the ship set would just be gross!
11-14-2014, 01:16 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
Posts: 5,730
Speaking of crap, it looks like the American guys are unhappy with the Parkerposal.
11-14-2014, 01:29 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Decoupled
Posts: 922
Originally Posted by Express pilot
Captain Dec Bid awards are out via backdoor. Click on Nov bid award, then change NOV to DEC on the wide report
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
