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Keep in mind that Express CA paid about the same as a 727 copilot at the time. Guys may have held CA in 18 months but it was all about pay. Regular Captains seats were around 12 years at the time.

By the same token, guys were upgrading at NWA during the same time frame (1998ish-2001) in roughly 5 years. One guy I knew did it in 4 years 11 months.

But that was at full a-scale, good times, pre-bankruptcy pay.

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badflaps

11-23-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1769522)

Worse than that, the cockpits and manuals. That's what this is about. There are no plans to raise wages for our profession at the entry level. None. The plan is using foreign nationals who will fly for peanuts. I was on a GoJet flight recently and both pilots' PA's were completely unintelligible (one Spanish, one Chinese).

I can see a day when I complain to a chief pilot about my FO not speaking the language, and that chief pilot telling me that I'd better up my game in my bilingual skills.

Carl

Verdad, but I still think the Spanish words for take-off and landing are goofy.

Justdoinmyjob

11-23-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1769522)

. I was on a GoJet flight recently and both pilots' PA's were completely unintelligible (one Spanish, one Chinese).

I can see a day when I complain to a chief pilot about my FO not speaking the language, and that chief pilot telling me that I'd better up my game in my bilingual skills.

Carl

http://www.macmillanenglish.com/uplo...0230027596.jpg

It's just one more step towards Esperanto!

scambo1

11-23-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1769529)

Verdad, but I still think the Spanish words for take-off and landing are goofy.

They are direct translations of dispatch and landing.

Despegar - dispatch / takeoff
Aterrizar - to land / to the terrain

badflaps

11-23-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1769531)

http://www.macmillanenglish.com/uplo...0230027596.jpg

It's just one more step towards Esperanto!

I thought he was the Lone Ranger's side kick....

badflaps

11-23-2014 09:33 AM

However they are spot on with the F/A's... Azzafata.

Justdoinmyjob

11-23-2014 09:35 AM

DALMD88FO

11-23-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1769518)

I don't understand why guys hold up express captain as a truly legitimate upgrade for this reason. Yes, it's an upgrade, and yes, you're the captain, but money and time off determine what your seniority can hold. (Despite the fact that for a long time, express captains were making serious bank with their GSWC campaign). The sunshine operation was a concession and should be viewed as a c-scale IMO.

And is was a c-scale, however it was also over $100k a year at the 2nd to 3rd year mark. Not to mention our rotations were much more efficient. I can't remember how long it took to me get to that point once I returned from furlough. (C2K rates were a memory).

Sink r8

11-23-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1769518)

I don't understand why guys hold up express captain as a truly legitimate upgrade for this reason.

Which is precisely the sentiment Express Captains were deliberately cultivating in their senior cohorts.

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