Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I am curious. To what level do you think
- the union should control Delta's overall operational plan?
- Should we dictate all flying?
- Is there ever a legitimate reason for management to pull down flying or shift it to other markets?
- Should the union have a automatic veto on all asset allocation decisions?
- The last question is if you were management would you agree to provisions on flying that locked you into 100% of what you were currently doing?
The RLA and our PWA give us the right to perform all Delta Company flying. We permit Company flying to be done by other pilots and permit codeshare on other air carriers.
It is impractical (for reasons of legality, even if economics are ignored) for Delta to fly every Delta passenger from every point across our network. Having a broad, convenient, international and domestic network improves marginal revenue ... we probably are not a sustainable business without it.
ALPA's task is extremely complex. While Delta pilots have a contractual right to all Delta flying, the definition of "Delta flying" is anything but simple. The Delta MEC has led, and continues to expand it's lead, over the rest of the profession when it comes to strategically planning, negotiating and implementing labor protective provisions.
Much of the progress we have made as a Company, a pilot group, and as leaders of our Association has been the result of a unique corporate culture which allows us to work together. When you consider what has happened elsewhere: American struggled with scope for 15 years just to have a Judge impose a several year old version of Delta's language and United's agreement also mirrors ours.
Delta being able to maintain a first mover advantage benefits the Delta pilots. At the same time, we must work damn hard to ensure Delta pilots maintain their right to perform Delta flying; defining that flying broadly so that the Delta pilots remain relevant.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-17-2014 at 12:58 PM.
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I think we should grow when our JV partners grow and cut when they cut.
The AF/KLM JV has failed to do that.
These last two LOAs don't even pretend to do that.
I think we should have an enforcement mechanism. Haven't we learned anything?
This business of writing it right into our contract that management is allowed to violate the contract (but only every other year) is just insane. A first year law student would flunk out for that idiocy.
ALPA should be honest and just quit saying that they are ever going to enforce scope.
The AF/KLM JV has failed to do that.
These last two LOAs don't even pretend to do that.
I think we should have an enforcement mechanism. Haven't we learned anything?
This business of writing it right into our contract that management is allowed to violate the contract (but only every other year) is just insane. A first year law student would flunk out for that idiocy.
ALPA should be honest and just quit saying that they are ever going to enforce scope.
What the company failed to do was increase the flying back up to the required minimum of 48.5% after adding Alitalia. They cwill fall about 1% short.
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Can't abide NAI
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Can't abide NAI
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Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
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A contractually specified penalty is popular, but is it the best way forward? An arbitration award can scale with the degree of the violation.
In contrast if we were to try to negotiate a severe penalty for any degree of noncompliance, no matter how small, the Company would not agree. Of course anything can be bought, but is that where you would want negotiators using their capital, or would you prefer the current remedy which is scalable?
I have served as a panelist in three forums over the years. While never sitting on a labor case, my experience in inter-company dispute resolution always had very straightforward outcomes.
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This is not to say I know how ALPA will resolve the AF/KLM/AZ grievance. There are much better experts on our MEC who deal with this stuff. I am just an observer in the bleachers.
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SD's latest letter said we would have more than $4.5 billion in pre tax profits. Anyone want to hazard a guess at what the PS on that will be?
Quick question. I was just assigned a trip with a 9.20 rest with a DHD following, does anyone know if this adheres to the contract? I'm looking but haven't found anything yet.....
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