I am also strongly against this. In my opinion one of the biggest benefits of this job is the many different options we have that affect QOL. Some guys will chase the quick upgrade, others will want to stay in the top 10% of thier category, some like to bid reserve and maximize time at home. Others like to stay senior as WB FOs. All these options are highly valued by those who pursue them.

A lot of really senior FOs are simply exercising their seniority rights by staying WB FO. This not only benefits them, but also benefits the more junior guys that chase the quick upgrade.

Most importantly, any forced upgrades are a very strong diminution of our current seniority rights. :mad:

I don't even see how this could be costed out. What cost do you attribute to the senior WB FO who used to bid what he wants, gets GS's, and has holidays off when he would be forced to upgrade to NB CA, be junior on reserve, and fly holidays?

Scoop

I recall at AA in the mid 80's if someone senior to you upgraded, you had two years to upgrade voluntarily or you would be forced to upgrade. I don't recall if it had to be in your specific equipment. At the time they were hiring aprox 120 pilots/month and getting aproximately 20 new MD 80s/ month. Don't know how long the upgrade thing lasted. They also had a very onerous B scale at the time.

Probably a stupid question here...I'm flying Christmas eve and Christmas and my layovers are lame. Probably nothing around the hotels will be open so I'm wanting to pack a couple cans of Surly Furious beers in my bag so I can have a some Christmas cheer in my hotel room. Am I allowed to go through KCM (I realize they would never know) or regular TSA with the cans?

As long as your in uniform you are exempt from the liquids restrictions. Even if it's a non KCM airport you can take them through regular security so enjoy!

All day, every day, and twice on Sundays. Enjoy

They are also coming hard for minimum schedule.

Hmmm....didn't know that. Guess I should really read that book. I've had supp vac days the last 2 years now and I know 2 years ago scheduling told me I couldn't use them to drop stuff in Jan that I had to use them as vacation days. Good to know, I've got 2 right now that will be dropping something in Jan.

Those PB days are worth way more to drop stuff than to use as vacation days.

I don't like that one at all. If reserve coverage is good, I should be able to drop however much I want.

How exactly would they " tighten " sick leave more than it is?

How would we increase productivity currently?

Mind you, lots of productivity is lost to training inefficiencies that are generated by a diverse fleet of many different types. Not our problem as pilots to fix.

Skip longer seat locks, adopt UPS pay scales plus automatic cost of living adjustment per contract year with intact profit sharing. Done deal?

Just observations and thoughts.

Not sure, but management thinks we use way more sick time than other employee groups.

We should have double the sick time everyone else has.....we can't just pop a Tylenol Cold and show up to work. Take a hit of Nyquil to get some sleep when you have a cold and you are not suppose to show up to work for 60 hours.

Anyone read the report on the USair accident from last year? Captain is getting hung because he took a medication that required 60 hours free of duty and he only had 45. You don't want to have an incident and have them find an OTC medication in your system.

They would be smart if they just figured we would all use 200 hours of sick time per year and forget about policing the policy.