So tell me Jerry, why do the DALPA reps want to lower their own pay and work conditions? Would a negotiating committee member be in the know?

Additional international flying is posted on Delta net for the summer. Probably explains some of the 7ERB staffing we are seeing.

Think the terrible options that are a available for health care are one of the primary reasons. Knew virtually no one that flew min Sked, in fact the opposite is true.

I was surprised the company didn't ask for a minimum schedule type restriction on the last contract. Now that we are so short in every catagory across the board, no one can drop trips anyway, unless there is someone wanting to pick up a trip, but I know my winter schedule last year from PBS was 67-72 hours, this year it's been 78-82 hours.

I don't see the company asking for this now because staffing numbers have disallowed this kind of option by virtue of "capped reserve days".

The option is there regardless of staffing. If you are a over 60 pilot your probably senior in your category. Simply bid good trips and put them up for pickup as a Q trip and on the swap board. They are gone in hours.

Maybe so but there has to be someone willing to pick it up. If staffing levels are good, they just drop into the pot. I guess the trips I try to drop aren't good enough for others to willingly pick up. :)

Yep. No matter how understaffed the category, if you are a senior 7ER or 73N captain (or F/O) and fly nothing but high time turns to places like SJU, STT and LIR, you put those things on the swapboard and they are quickly gone. The only exception would be holidays and the like.

And I do know a few guys who bid nothing but these and drop what they don't feel like flying and end up flying 50-60 hours a month. To be fair they are the exception but it is certainly not unheard of.

If we were to look at that scenario, they MUST be APDs, usable regardless of reserve coverage/holidays/etc.

Oh, ok.

So I should walk back into my chief pilots office and tell him AND the flight ops manager they are both "rumor mongering" and thus full of schitt? Particularly on their comments regarding sick leave.

You know, the worst abuse of "rumor mongering" is done at the LCA level.

Management feeds them frequently at meetings with one sided information and engineered trial balloons that they eagerly consume and expressively regurgitate as soon as they can in crew rooms and cockpits.

Sound familiar sailing?

Oh, and I remember everyone stridently protesting from inside the Dalpa camp that 4833 was not true before we found out that POS C12K was bedrocked in it and it was true......

Same with CDOs in the FAR 117 LOA.

Take away = DALPA has a credibility problem. They need to fix it.

Start with a detailed and honest accounting of what just happened on the negotiating committee.

Double posting