Rumor on the other forum the AF/KLM scope grievance is settled for $60 million. $5000 per pilot.

If true, I think settling for cash is a mistake. We need a permanent improvement to the PWA like 5:15 per vacation day.

We also need them to be in compliance going forward.

And the new scope language needs to have a 12 month limit to any future noncompliance and specific and immediate penalties. I.e. 6 hours per vacation day until back in compliance.

The penalty needs to be painful enough to make them want to fight to get back in compliance.

This violation caused many jobs and promotions. Selling scope for money is a VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE.

Jerry

How can we settle something when the violation has yet to occur? Another strike by the AF pilots next quarter and the company might well be in compliance. Usually settlements occur after the violation.

12-27-2014 | 03:41 AM

#174742

sailingfun

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boog123

No, it's something in the system I think. Im at -18 and want to borrow 7 and it will not let me. Im at 58 hours for the month due to a few p/d's, but I saw nothing that this should affect my ability to grab a few from the bank.

I always thought you could only borrow 5 a month when going negative. The contract seems to indicate that restriction only exists if you have a GS. Try 5 and see what happens. It will at least solve the 20 hour question.

12-27-2014 | 04:26 AM

#174743

Bucking Bar

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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler

Quote:

Originally Posted by gzsg

Rumor on the other forum the AF/KLM scope grievance is settled for $60 million. $5000 per pilot.

Jerry

I have not read the Contract Admin has filed such a grievance. The trigger for the noncompliance to become a violation has not yet technically occurred.

Whoever guesses will be wrong. This forum is quite popular. We want the best result for the pilots. The best results will be reached on the basis of the best data.

12-27-2014 | 05:44 AM

#174744

maddogmax

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Unless one of the CA's was a LCA its not legal since a Captain can't occupy the right seat. Hard to make the breaks work out with that restriction.

When NWA first got the A330 every flight was 2 CA/1FO since none of the FO's were typed. One CA would be in the left seat for T/O, the other for landing.
Also, I am not sure if it is still correct, but I believe every Captain is technically qualified in the right seat but can only be re-scheduled into that seat away from base.

12-27-2014 | 05:51 AM

#174745

boog123

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From: Capt

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Didn't work, still get the insufficient bank time available message. Odd. Try to figure it out Monday I guess. CPSC no luck also.

12-27-2014 | 06:12 AM

#174746

Timbo

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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .

Quote:

Originally Posted by boog123

Didn't work, still get the insufficient bank time available message. Odd. Try to figure it out Monday I guess. CPSC no luck also.

I go "negative bank" all the time, and I think the max negative you can go is only 20 hours, not 30, which is why you are getting the insufficient bank message. If you are -18 now, try two hours and see what happens.

I just put 'fill up' and it awards me as much as possible to get to the ALV, more than 5 hours if I'm that short, but I don't think I've ever seen more than -20 in my bank, so that's why I think that's the limit.

12-27-2014 | 06:28 AM

#174747

buzzpat

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

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Originally Posted by Timbo

It's -30 Timbo. I'm there now.

12-27-2014 | 06:55 AM

#174748

Flyby1206

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From: 320 CA

Hey guys- sorry for the interruption. Any chance of a load check for #2742 and #2744 LGA-BOS today 12/27 at 3pm and 5pm? Trying to cockpit jumpseat and wonder if there are empty seats and other jumpseaters. Thanks