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Old 01-13-2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
So what's the interpretation of FOM 7.1.1:

•While passengers are deplaning, a pilot should stand at the deplaning door to thank our customers whenever possible.
•Pilots should not deplane until all passengers have departed the aircraft, unless early deplaning is necessary for operational reasons or passenger assistance.

"Whenever Possible" Sorry, I deal w/ El Lay traffic, and it's not possible for me to hang around.

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Old 01-13-2015 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
So what's the interpretation of FOM 7.1.1:

•While passengers are deplaning, a pilot should stand at the deplaning door to thank our customers whenever possible.
•Pilots should not deplane until all passengers have departed the aircraft, unless early deplaning is necessary for operational reasons or passenger assistance.
I wear my hat and give a hearty handshake with a congratulatory phrase to each passenger for surviving the experience of having the drunken gorilla that is me flying them to wherever we haphazardly arrived at.

Should I need food or the need to write someone's phone number on the wall in an airport bathroom, the "should" excuses me from any sort of eye contact and stuttering to passengers postflight. I go diving out cutting off people trying to catch their -5 minute connections and fart as close as possible in front of them in an effort to accelerate my speed up the jetbridge.
Old 01-14-2015 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Bar,
You're something of a car guy. I am not a ford guy generally and have been hunting for the right 1955 chevy 2 door post to be my next project. Well, I stumbled upon a 1957 ford 300 2 door without a motor/Trans. I'm considering a 2012 5.0/6speed for it. The body lines and stance on that 57ford absolutely got me.

The plan:
Tumwater, WA

I negotiated a 51 chevy convertible 2 for 1 in the deal...I'll be ebay ing.

I'm finishing a bagged 66 c10 short fleet 350/th350.



Drivetrain thoughts? 427/4 speed? 5.0/6 speed...too much bad stuff on the 4.6
Are there oil pan issues?
Old 01-14-2015 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Here is an "alpa insiders" view of the flight attendants unionizing.
Why do you keep posting that I work for Alpa. I simply call my reps now and then. You have the same access. It's seems that everyone who disagrees with some of the crazy stuff posted here is some kind of ALPA employee. The fact is there is no one posting here under ALPA control.
As for the flight attendants getting a union I simply posted what the results might be and changes you would likely see. I actually support the flight attendants in their quest for a union. They will however have a long hard road ahead of them once the vote is over. They are such a divided group a really functional Union will take a long time to evolve. You also forgot to post the context of those replies. The statement was wouldn't it be better for us if the flight attendants had a union. Those were the answers as to why it would not be better for pilots. It would however be better for the flight attendants if they can achieve a cohesive group.

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Old 01-14-2015 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Bar,
You're something of a car guy. I am not a ford guy generally and have been hunting for the right 1955 chevy 2 door post to be my next project. Well, I stumbled upon a 1957 ford 300 2 door without a motor/Trans. I'm considering a 2012 5.0/6speed for it. The body lines and stance on that 57ford absolutely got me.

The plan:
Tumwater, WA

I negotiated a 51 chevy convertible 2 for 1 in the deal...I'll be ebay ing.

I'm finishing a bagged 66 c10 short fleet 350/th350.

Drivetrain thoughts? 427/4 speed? 5.0/6 speed...too much bad stuff on the 4.6
Loving the C10 ... if I only had the garage space.

Do you know me from High School, or something? My DD then was a 57 Ford Custom Sedan, 390, 4 speed. My favorite builds have always been historically correct, "what if" designs. Like an alternate history for cars. The kind of stuff Steve Strope is now famous for.



I built a "what if Ford had the idea of a GTO 10 years before GM?" ... drivetrain was a 390 (called a "Big Block" but actually a medium block) and (I think it was a Muncie 4 speed) and at 9 inch Ford Rear Axle (which you car is probably already sitting on) with a limited slip differential. While not year correct, I stopped at about 1959, since the 60's stuff was another generation of cars (nobody could differentiate the differential, but the rubber that thing would lay down was legendary enough to get my nemisis kicked out of school when he claimed by "work" as his own)

Don't get me wrong, I dream of the new Ford "Coyote" V8's. But frankly a 50's Ford just isn't a good drive with a high reving modern engine which has the volumetric efficiency of a recent Winston Cup motor. The other issue is size. The DOHC heads are ginormous. Probably fit easily in your car, but I'd do a lot of measuring before buying anything. I assume someone has figured out the electronic engine controls and wiring (that would scare me from a 2012 swap). The suspension on 50's Fords was good for its day and robust, but absolutely terrible by modern standards. The most any sane person is going to do is cruise and enjoy the ocassional hellacious burnout. With those limitations in mind, an old school torquemonster like the 390 is going to drive right, sound right and look right.

The other consideration is, what sells? I've not been in the market recently, but the new Coyote v8 crate motor is easily twice thew money an old school engine would be.

Just my humble opinion. Everybody's got cool ideas and maybe I'm too conservative.

Going to the Detroit Auto Show this year? If so, PM me. I'm going to try to get up there to look at the Mustang 350R (my new Contract 2015 goal). Ford had me at "Flat Plane Crank."

Old 01-14-2015 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
Last I checked doesn't the FOM have something in there about that?
Lecturing us isn't going to build any goodwill towards your cause.

We don't hang out at airlineflightattendantscentral and quote company policy about taking food and booze off the airplane. Don't crash our forum and expect a warm response to your hectoring.

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Old 01-14-2015 | 02:36 AM
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When did SWA lose their subforum? Just noticed L&G SWA
Old 01-14-2015 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
We don't hang out at airlineflightattendantscentral and quote company policy about taking food and booze off the airplane. Don't crash our forum and expect a warm response to your hectoring.
I appreciate DALFA's tone, but not his/her attempt to insert this discussion into the L&G. The effect, if not purpose, of discussing the FA's right to self-representation is to pigeonhole us in two categories: 1) we fear the FA's having a union because we're jealous, so they should get one, 2) we support the FA's having a union because it's great, so they should get one.

Even though this is our forum, we're not the intended audience for this discussion, so I see zero upside to it.

It isn't even possible to make intelligent pronouncements on the IAM drive at Delta, because each union behaves differently at each property. There might be pilots here that have a philosophical viewpoint on this issue, or experience with the IAM or AFA elsewhere, but no one, absolutely no one, has any idea how this group would behave with a union, as divided as the FA's are.

DALFA, it's up to you guys to determine whether you're going to swing the momentum towards having an effective, unionized group, or not. It's one of the tests of self-representation. If your drive hinges on support or opposition from other groups, there is a problem.

Good luck.

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Old 01-14-2015 | 03:52 AM
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First off, why do you have a copy of our FOM? I don't run around with your inflight manual, nor do I care what's in it. Secondly, the key word/words here are "should" and "whenever possible". Change that to "will" and "at all times" you would have a point. As to my interpretation of the rest of this. 40 minute turns in ATL with a plane swap, the need for food or a dump are all very valid operational reasons to bolt. As a commuter, I typically plan my jumpseats on the flight that leaves 1 after the first flight I could catch so as to factor in being a little late or a drug/alcohol test. That being said, if I've been rerouted(damn near every trip) or running late and there is a chance of missing my jumpseat, you can bet I'm out of there.



Originally Posted by DALFA
So what's the interpretation of FOM 7.1.1:

•While passengers are deplaning, a pilot should stand at the deplaning door to thank our customers whenever possible.
•Pilots should not deplane until all passengers have departed the aircraft, unless early deplaning is necessary for operational reasons or passenger assistance.
Old 01-14-2015 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Loving the C10 ... if I only had the garage space.

Do you know me from High School, or something? My DD then was a 57 Ford Custom Sedan, 390, 4 speed. My favorite builds have always been historically correct, "what if" designs. Like an alternate history for cars. The kind of stuff Steve Strope is now famous for.



I built a "what if Ford had the idea of a GTO 10 years before GM?" ... drivetrain was a 390 (called a "Big Block" but actually a medium block) and (I think it was a Muncie 4 speed) and at 9 inch Ford Rear Axle (which you car is probably already sitting on) with a limited slip differential. While not year correct, I stopped at about 1959, since the 60's stuff was another generation of cars (nobody could differentiate the differential, but the rubber that thing would lay down was legendary enough to get my nemisis kicked out of school when he claimed by "work" as his own)

Don't get me wrong, I dream of the new Ford "Coyote" V8's. But frankly a 50's Ford just isn't a good drive with a high reving modern engine which has the volumetric efficiency of a recent Winston Cup motor. The other issue is size. The DOHC heads are ginormous. Probably fit easily in your car, but I'd do a lot of measuring before buying anything. I assume someone has figured out the electronic engine controls and wiring (that would scare me from a 2012 swap). The suspension on 50's Fords was good for its day and robust, but absolutely terrible by modern standards. The most any sane person is going to do is cruise and enjoy the ocassional hellacious burnout. With those limitations in mind, an old school torquemonster like the 390 is going to drive right, sound right and look right.

The other consideration is, what sells? I've not been in the market recently, but the new Coyote v8 crate motor is easily twice thew money an old school engine would be.

Just my humble opinion. Everybody's got cool ideas and maybe I'm too conservative.

Going to the Detroit Auto Show this year? If so, PM me. I'm going to try to get up there to look at the Mustang 350R (my new Contract 2015 goal). Ford had me at "Flat Plane Crank."

Bar,
Thanks for your thoughts. I have nothing against old school...old, old school yes, but carbed big blocks are great, I just sold two yesterday. Chevys are great for the interchangeability. Sbc's are hard to beat for cheap dependable interchangeable power and reliability. As far as suspension, I've clipped many old vehicles, camaro subs and rears, late model gto irs' etc. 03 and up crown Vic's have the unboltable aluminum front cradle, etc. suspension is not an issue. This car has already got a Grenada front suspension with power steering and disc brakes, it was nicely done.

The car is being delivered today, both actually and I won't be doing anything with it for at least a month. I like the 390 idea, but it'll probably get a six speed so I can enjoy some highway mileage. It does have a ford 9 with 4:10 gearing so without overdrive, it's a gas hog.

I'll continue to ponder...I just finished building a 327 with vortec heads, mild build, lunati cam, 10:1 pistons, new high quality everything, etc 406 hp it's gotta go in something, but not this ford.

As I said, this car kinda fell in my lap. I was looking for a 55 post chevy, but I think it'll be a keeper. What's funny is, being a chevy guy, I never knew ford made anything this cool looking. It's just right in so many ways that (sacrilegiously) the 57 chevy is not.

Keep me posted on the drivetrain thoughts.

Bad flaps, the 4.6 is well known for bent rods.
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