Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1813989)

Delta has some of the more generous sick leave provisions which are provided for when you are sick. It is not, nor was it ever intended to be, "free vacation."

If we (the pilots and Delta) figure it is like "vacation" it will be costed out as such.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1813989)

Delta has some of the more generous sick leave provisions which are provided for when you are sick. It is not, nor was it ever intended to be, "free vacation."

If we (the pilots and Delta) figure it is like "vacation" it will be costed out as such.

Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1814038)

I completely agree, but you do have to admit that it encourages abuse based upon the use it or lose it provision.

Best system I've seen is a bank provision that rolls over unused hours and allows you to sell back any hours over 3 years worth of hours at 50%.

Solves the use it or lose it spike in May, and doesn't encourage you to come to work sick because if I'm sick I will stay home for 100% vs. coming to work and getting 50% later on.

No sick program is going to make everyone happy though so I think some of us will always think something else is better.

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1814034)

You're joking, right? All the other majors have 1000-1300 hours of max accrual, all of which is paid to the employee. Our 270 per year, assuming you've got 20 years of service, goes to disability after what, 6 weeks? No more accrual, and if you don't pay into DPMA, you're getting a 50% pay cut. And what we don't use goes back into company coffers. Good deal for them! Our sick leave policy is not good. The union effectively washed their hands of the obligation to defend usage of sick leave in C12.

If we had Southwest's or American's sick leave policy, I'd be sitting on a pot worth a year and a half's salary right now, including the leave I've used.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1813878)

Here is a monthly bidding question for those who bid reserve. First of all the parameters are a max of 3 groups of X days, min 4 days to max 99 days on call. Now the question.

If I have 2 days on call a the end of the month, say 28 Feb thru 01 Mar, can I bid 02-03 Mar as X days or do they automatically have to be on call days because of the min 4 days on call parameter? Thx

Denny

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1814040)

I don't see how you can claim we have a good sick leave program vs. our competitors. Look at the contract comparison on the DALPA website.

Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1814043)

Do they get paid their accrued bank if they don't have a disability or sick issue that takes them out for a year and a half? Basically you have to get sick or disabled for a year and a half to get paid those hours is the way I understand their policies.

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1813978)

ENDEAVOR MEC APPROVES MODIFICATIONS TO PILOT RETENTION LOA
The Endeavor Air MEC voted today to approve a letter of agreement to modify the structure of their recently announced pilot-retention payments. Highlights include: shortened retention periods (three four-month retention periods each year instead of annual or semiannual periods) with the first payment occurring after the retention period ending April 30, 2015; increased total annual retention payments of $20,000 for each pilot (up from $15,000), divided into three even installments; and increased program duration of four years (up from two years).

"Providing more money, sooner, and for a longer period of time, these improvements will make staying at Endeavor a more attractive and viable option for current pilots," said Capt. Jonathan Allen, Endeavor Air MEC chairman. "With this LOA, the majority of Endeavor pilots are now the highest-paid regional jet pilots in the country.
"Additionally, these retention payments offer potential new hires a level of total annual compensation no other regional carrier can match in this competitive job market. Most importantly, the fact that the payments include all pilots and future pilots on the same terms is another significant step toward building a bright future for the airline." The modifications provide a second-year first officer with total annual compensation of approximately $55,000 and extend the retention program to a point at which all current pilots are projected to have upgraded and interviewed with Delta.

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1814047)

It depends on the company. Some let you cash out annually, if you choose, and some allow you to cash out at retirement. The sick leave accrual max is considered your money. Southwest, for example, accrues at nearly 100 hours per year from year one, and maxes out at almost 1400 hours. All yours.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1814054)

Clamp is kicking himself for leaving.:D