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What if the company starts calling the brown bag with the turkey sandwich they give me on Thanksgiving in the lounge between flights pay and states they can't match American's rates?
Call it PROFIT S-H-A-R-I-N-G. Not Guaranteed Pay. How about my union worrying about negotiating the COSTS of what the company needs to pay the pilot group. Not the at risk profit sharing (which is not a COST). I'm not an accountant, but my understanding is that if profits go up (thus Profit Sharing goes up), it's not resulting in greater costs for the company. Therefore, that's not a valid excuse as to why they can't match American.
How come my union didn't bring up getting pay rate increases for "at risk compensation" before 2012, like say at the merger? OH, only when it's something someone else wants? Heck, I see their point of view--I kind of like those dollars too. So how about we leave that alone and work on the improving the rates that need work instead of chipping away at the part of the contract we're very pleased with? I know, I know....I don't understand how the system works.
Call it PROFIT S-H-A-R-I-N-G. Not Guaranteed Pay. How about my union worrying about negotiating the COSTS of what the company needs to pay the pilot group. Not the at risk profit sharing (which is not a COST). I'm not an accountant, but my understanding is that if profits go up (thus Profit Sharing goes up), it's not resulting in greater costs for the company. Therefore, that's not a valid excuse as to why they can't match American.
How come my union didn't bring up getting pay rate increases for "at risk compensation" before 2012, like say at the merger? OH, only when it's something someone else wants? Heck, I see their point of view--I kind of like those dollars too. So how about we leave that alone and work on the improving the rates that need work instead of chipping away at the part of the contract we're very pleased with? I know, I know....I don't understand how the system works.

GG,
Don't worry. After they cut the checks next week it is going to be very, very difficult to touch the PS. Not saying it won't happen, but the torches and pitch-forks will be out en masse.
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Again keep in mind that the entire discussion stems from one persons posts on two forums. I can't find a single person doing Union work who wants to get rid of it other then mysterious shadow people no one is willing to name and the companies only statements on profit sharing have been to endorse it.
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Again. You are splitting hairs. While no one in the "union" had publicly said we should get rid of it, several are jockeying to reduce it. And you know that.
Why are you playing word games? Whose side are you on?
Why are you playing word games? Whose side are you on?
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Again keep in mind that the entire discussion stems from one persons posts on two forums. I can't find a single person doing Union work who wants to get rid of it other then mysterious shadow people no one is willing to name and the companies only statements on profit sharing have been to endorse it.
Again keep in mind that the entire discussion stems from one persons posts on two forums. I can't find a single person doing Union work who wants to get rid of it other then mysterious shadow people no one is willing to name and the companies only statements on profit sharing have been to endorse it.
This time I'm paying attention and asking the question as the info wasn't put out for discussion the last time prior to the TA. You could say I lost some faith in the transparency.
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Just out of curiosity, did you find a single person doing Union work proposing to give some up in C2012? Maybe they were and it was my fault for not paying attention.
This time I'm paying attention and asking the question as the info wasn't put out for discussion the last time prior to the TA. You could say I lost some faith in the transparency.
This time I'm paying attention and asking the question as the info wasn't put out for discussion the last time prior to the TA. You could say I lost some faith in the transparency.
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