Just like 4-8-3-3. When we first heard of it (on the forums) we thought it was a pathetic joke of someone's imagination. Little did we know it was ALPA's pride and joy.

Did the pilots get out? Used to fly nuts like this in a beat up old 182...the amount of stress put on those airframes by the squirrels getting out on the struts is huge. Was always a fear of mine that the tail would snap off or a strut would fail...man...the things we did to get here...

You can give input to your LEC reps today, this hour, this minute. Why do you depend on "hearsay, rumor, and conjecture" to form your opinions? This "reducing PS" rumor may have some basis in fact, or it could all be internet pot-stirring.

Determine what is most important to you (internet discussion boards be damned) and provide input to your LEC reps accordingly.

Also, never forget you are one of 12,000 and we all have opinions, and we all can't share the same view all the time. That is what your MEC and negotiators have to deal with before dealing with the company.

Last, I will never forget talking to a guy soon after C2K was ratified telling me he was going to "quit the union, because this new contract is so concessionary." Now the hindsight-is-20/20 view is that C2K was written on tablets and brought down from Mt. Sinai. Your union has to deal with that sort of perspective as well.

Our scope now--while still needing improvement--is vastly superior to what we had in C2K...you know, the contract everyone aspires to revert to. Pay-wise, yes. Everything else, no.

The pilot of one airplane got out and parachuted safely to the ground. The other airplane, damaged but still flyable, the pilot was able to dead-stick to the strip they were jumping from/to and landed safely.

The part the video doesn't show was that the trail airplane's pilot was 'high' on the lead, in addition to flying cross-cockpit!! :eek: He lost visual of lead underneath his own instrument panel and tried to acquire by lowering the nose. That's the point where his prop contacted/shredded the empennage of the lead airplane and well, the rest is on video!! #formation-flying-101:rolleyes:

It's miraculous nobody was hurt or killed. This 'team' has a history of these 'situations'.

You might need to join in on the sick time abuse bonanza, because you're high if you believe that.

I agree with you, mind you, but I don't trust the other 51% of the list who toes the company line.

If by some crazy chance, I'm there to vote on the next contract, I'll be right there with you on the "No" side of things (under your above scenario).

It's on the link to the "white paper" report. They can collect all the data they want, but without a change to our contract we get 100 hours unverified. They can't just change it because they perceive some are using too much.

My LEC rep told me that at the previous MEC meeting there were members of the MEC who stated they were willing to trade away PS for pay raises.

I do not know who they MEC members were because I did not ask. I was happy when my rep told me he was opposed to it.

DALPA decided that 15 percent of 2.5 billion in pretax profits was worth about 6 percent of your earnings for a profit sharinf check. They took 1/3 of that away leaving you with 4 percent for the first 2.5 billion in pretax profits. Equal to 2 percent of pay. It was a good move, but it helped hide that our contract was nowhere near what anyone was expecting.

Anyone know the current layover hotel in FLL. Trying to find a option under 500.00 for the Miami boat show.