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Old 02-14-2015 | 12:23 PM
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Old 02-14-2015 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Unless it's not the company pushing for it. I mean with 12500 pilots we have 14000 ideas on how we should be paid. Maybe it's from our side, after all who calls PS at risk pay anyways?
I call PS a concession.
Old 02-14-2015 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I really hope when we go into negotiations DALPA calls it at risk pay. The company will try and call it compensation and use it to keep our rates lower. When your addressing the NMB what would you call it?
Equating PS to pay is a losing strategy and will cost us at the negotiating table. Calling it a concession and getting rid of it, along with a comprehensive reassessment of the PWA to "Restore the Profession" is the answer.

We should negotiate Section 6 with reference to industry pay ONLY and demand that Delta Pilots get an industry leading payscale.
Old 02-14-2015 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IAV84DAL
Equating PS to pay is a losing strategy and will cost us at the negotiating table. Calling it a concession and getting rid of it, along with a comprehensive reassessment of the PWA to "Restore the Profession" is the answer.

We should negotiate Section 6 with reference to industry pay ONLY and demand that Delta Pilots get an industry leading payscale.
He's back with the same old song. How about an industry leading pay scale, work rules, and current at risk profit sharing.
Old 02-14-2015 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by C130
I am new to this, but I thought that once you answered your phone you were committed to taking a green slip and the commute was on you.
Not quite. That's probably what they told you in indoc, but it's not the whole story.

From the scheduling reference handbook (please read it early, read it often).

What If I Do Answer the Phone on an Off Day?

A pilot’s obligation to accept a trip on X days or regular line off days is not absolute, whether the trip is the result of a white slip (same day or next day), yellow slip, green slip, or inverse assignment. A variety of circumstances might make accepting such a trip impossible. For example:
• Not being physically located so as to be able to report.
• Having consumed alcohol.
• Lack of available child care.
• Lack of available transportation.
• Not being adequately rested. For example:
A pilot, not on call, notified of an inverse assignment should consider whether he is sufficiently rested and fit for duty to accept the scheduled rotation.
 A pilot is not required to accept an inverse assignment if he cannot meet the requirements of FAR 117.5 and certify fitness for duty for the assigned rotation.
Old 02-14-2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IAV84DAL
Equating PS to pay is a losing strategy and will cost us at the negotiating table. Calling it a concession and getting rid of it, along with a comprehensive reassessment of the PWA to "Restore the Profession" is the answer.

We should negotiate Section 6 with reference to industry pay ONLY and demand that Delta Pilots get an industry leading payscale.
Please go to the airline profiles at the top of the page, compare pay scales and share your logic for getting rid of profit sharing. I don't understand your position.
Old 02-14-2015 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I really hope when we go into negotiations DALPA calls it at risk pay. The company will try and call it compensation and use it to keep our rates lower. When your addressing the NMB what would you call it?
I'm fine with them doing that. If that's all this at risk talk is then I'm fine with it. It's the gambling of what would be better for 2016 that makes me a grumpy kitty pointed in the wrong direction.


Old 02-14-2015 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Don't forget, you can deduct the cost of Pro-diem if you itemize.
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Unless it's not the company pushing for it. I mean with 12500 pilots we have 14000 ideas on how we should be paid. Maybe it's from our side, after all who calls PS at risk pay anyways?
Good point. My rep said it was him and not someone in management.
Old 02-14-2015 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IAV84DAL
I call PS a concession.
It's actually a concession offset. An offset against concessions you didn't have to make, since you weren't working for Delta at the time. One of the items being offset, was the loss of a pension. Don't be surprised if you don't get too much sympathy from the people who had to purchase the PS WITH concessions.

Doesn't mean you're not entitled to discuss what the combined group should do with common equities, including the PS, going forward. If you want to trade the PS, knock yourself out: you're entitled. But spare us the disparaging labels, and the attendant insult.
Old 02-14-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I really hope when we go into negotiations DALPA calls it at risk pay. The company will try and call it compensation and use it to keep our rates lower. When your addressing the NMB what would you call it?
I would call it what it is...Compensation based on the past 12 months financial performance. Which means it's impossible to predict and impossible for the NMB to quantify (or account for) in future years of a contract.

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