I wouldn't be interested in the separate duty periods, rather just go home. But I have 3 trips this month that release at 1000 or earlier, I know it would be possible to cram the 1st day of another rotation into my legal FAR duty day. I guess the real crux of the matter is would the computers consider it 2 duty periods and require the rest or consider it 1 duty period. If 1 duty period it would then need to decide whether I would get the 5:15 or 10:30. If the opportunity presents itself I'll give it a try and see what happens.

It will not be awarded unless you have the required break in duty time between rotations. You won't even show up on the trip coverage reports Skeds uses to award open time.

03-06-2015 | 05:28 PM

#179202

Omar 111

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From: 73na

[QUOTE=MikeF16;1838492]I wouldn't be interested in the separate duty periods, rather just go home. But I have 3 trips this month that release at 1000 or earlier, I know it would be possible to cram the 1st day of another rotation into my legal FAR duty day. I guess the real crux of the matter is would the computers consider it 2 duty periods and require the rest or consider it 1 duty period. If 1 duty period it would then need to decide whether I would get the 5:15 or 10:30. If the opportunity presents itself I'll give it a try and see what happens.[/QUOTE

Sorry, you can't do it. You have to have a legal break after you finish your first rotation before you can begin a second.

Omar

03-06-2015 | 05:39 PM

#179203

firstmob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifeisgood

5 757's
China
8 years old average
$11M per jet average.

Always looking worldwide.

Where in China?

03-06-2015 | 06:03 PM

#179204

Carl Spackler

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From: 747-400 Captain

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Carl, last fall I offered you a large bet on if I was wrong or not. You declined to take the bet. Please tell us your numbers and where they are from. The numbers you posted before were the requirement to cure the problem with one year to go. Not the average over 4 years.
Here is what is pertinent and will be what the grievance is about. The contract required that the company award us 48.5% of the EASK. We are actually going to end up around 47% the shortfall will be 1.5%. There are several varibles on how many flights that might be since its a EASK. Length of the flight and size of the aircraft make big changes. To make you happy I will call the shortfall 1.5%. Do you dispute that number?

We've been through this too many times to rehash and I'm sure nobody wants to see us go through this process again only to see you go silent, then resurface with this same 2 flight per day nonsense. If anyone is interested, they can revisit mine, FTB's, Georgtg's and others posted charts and tables. Minimize the job losses to Delta pilots all you wish sailingfun, it doesn't make it true. It never will.

Carl

03-06-2015 | 06:08 PM

#179205

forgot to bid

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From: Light Chop

Quote:

Originally Posted by gredenko

As a newhire on the ER, could you guys expand on what we heard so many times in indoc that they're bulking up on staffing for summer ER flying? Does that mean more cities, more frequency to existing cities, charters, military...? I understand there was an ER pulldown a few years ago, but it seems like they're building it back up (see latest AE). Is it only for the summer? Thanks!

Supposedly, multiple sources at least, Delta would like not to reduce the 757 fleet to the size previously mentioned. It might require additional aircraft not already here. Maybe they're wanting to staff those as well as just handle the ebb and flow of summer and ER Bs bailing to their first Captain positions. IDK.

One could at least hope that's true.

03-06-2015 | 06:10 PM

#179206

forgot to bid

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From: Light Chop

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdGrimley

The Moak Group

SPACESHIPS.

03-06-2015 | 06:48 PM

#179207

Timbo

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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

SPACESHIPS.

I just wish one of their Clients had been the Delta Pilots, you know, the guys who paid his salary for about the past 10 years...

I'm pretty sure the A4A is one of his Clients now that our contracts are 'mature'.

Oh Wait! He IS a Delta Pilot!

Or... was.

I doubt we'll ever see him fly a Delta jet again.

03-06-2015 | 07:08 PM

#179208

Carl Spackler

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From: 747-400 Captain

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Originally Posted by Timbo

I just wish one of their Clients had been the Delta Pilots, you know, the guys who paid his salary for about the past 10 years...

We're still paying part of his salary Timbo. He's still on our list drawing ALPA flight pay loss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo

I'm pretty sure the A4A is one of his Clients now that our contracts are 'mature'.

Oh Wait! He IS a Delta Pilot!

Or... was.

I doubt we'll ever see him fly a Delta jet again.

I doubt we'll see him flying a Delta jet either. My question is when he'll stop getting flight pay loss.

Carl

03-06-2015 | 07:26 PM

#179209

sailingfun

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

We're still paying part of his salary Timbo. He's still on our list drawing ALPA flight pay loss.

I doubt we'll see him flying a Delta jet either. My question is when he'll stop getting flight pay loss.

Carl

My understanding is that he is on flight pay loss at the moment representing the ATA with congress concerning the Middle East airline issue and the attempt to remove them from open skies. The company is covering the flight pay for him. This is a huge issue and he is the right person to be fronting it in DC.