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Old 04-06-2015, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
My lecturing won't change anything. Nothing will change. I guarantee you I as well as other jumpseaters will miss flights because of deadheading crewmembers. I have missed jumpseats because I wasn't listed and the agent didn't have time to deal with me with no jumpseater listed. I commute from a city with hourly flights so I am always trying to catch the earlier flight (walking up last minute).
So...why weren't you listed? I've been on my phone making my listing as I was walking up to the gate, just to avoid this nonsense. Like you, I commute from a place (MCO-ATL) with hourly flights. I often get to MCO an hour or so early if the traffic isn't too bad. On the crew bus I'm on the phone trying to book the earlier JS if it looks like I'll be there 15 prior to pushback. I can't even count all the F/A jumpseats I've taken to get an off line pilot onto the cockpit j/s. BUT... when I'm positive space DH'ng, (unless it's a short flight like 1hr) I'm taking my seat in the back. I have asked the Gate Agent if every non-rev was going to get on, and offered to sit up front if it would help a non-rev get on.

BTW, why can we sit in F/A jumpseats but the F/A's can't sit in the cockpit?
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
This I know. (I've been 88, 76, and 73 as well here) I own a 750 as well for that exact reason, but haven't had to bring it for the last 3.5 years!

I had to use the single cup clarks one time.... what an awful experience. I can't believe the company keeps getting those.
As odd as this sounds there was a 737 FO turned 717 A who couldn't stand the free Telex. So he said he told the company they have to give him something better. Idk what that means, but he proudly carries around a company 1 cup DC he calls his own. Pulls it out of a bag they come from mx with.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus View Post
Got to meet a fellow APCer the other day! Was on my way back from the Bahamas with my Pacer, and dropped into Sebring to say hi to Timbo. He even braved going up for a spin around the lake in the old bird. Unfortunately had to continue on to Tampa for the night... next time I gotta get a ride in that racing catamaran of his!

Incidentally, the Bahamas by small plane (and cruising catamaran) was a pretty fantastic adventure I'd recommend to anyone.

Why don't we have a like button on this forum? I want to hit like.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus View Post
Got to meet a fellow APCer the other day! Was on my way back from the Bahamas with my Pacer, and dropped into Sebring to say hi to Timbo. He even braved going up for a spin around the lake in the old bird. Unfortunately had to continue on to Tampa for the night... next time I gotta get a ride in that racing catamaran of his!

Incidentally, the Bahamas by small plane (and cruising catamaran) was a pretty fantastic adventure I'd recommend to anyone.

Thanks for dropping in and taking me for a ride in your beautifully restored Pacer! My only regret was I didn't get to take you to the great Mexican place for dinner, or out on the lake for some wet fun.

You should probably put your plane on floats and leave it in my backyard so I can keep an eye on it next winter....

I promise not to fly it... too much!
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
So...why weren't you listed? I've been on my phone making my listing as I was walking up to the gate, just to avoid this nonsense. Like you, I commute from a place (MCO-ATL) with hourly flights. I often get to MCO an hour or so early if the traffic isn't too bad. On the crew bus I'm on the phone trying to book the earlier JS if it looks like I'll be there 15 prior to pushback. I can't even count all the F/A jumpseats I've taken to get an off line pilot onto the cockpit j/s. BUT... when I'm positive space DH'ng, (unless it's a short flight like 1hr) I'm taking my seat in the back. I have asked the Gate Agent if every non-rev was going to get on, and offered to sit up front if it would help a non-rev get on.

BTW, why can we sit in F/A jumpseats but the F/A's can't sit in the cockpit?
At 30 prior it won't let you list. Ask me how I know. I'm talking about a tighter connection. I have literally walked up 7 minutes prior to departure and made it. I've also missed it.
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Old 04-07-2015, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
When I am captain, I will flate out tell a deadheader that he needs to take his assigned deadhead seat as the jumpseat is not an option. Unfortunately, I am not a captain. I have been left behind and it ****es me off. Some of you guys are ignorant. Not sure why everyone is so anxious to give up a deadhead seat to sit in the jumpseat especially when we can usually get econ comfort with a 24 hour checkin.
Well, probably because it is "not all about me". Yes.. I am entitled to that seat in the cabin but, if I can aid someone getting on the jet plane, then I will do so. I have commuted (by choice) for most of my 37 years here and I have truly appreciated any effort to accommodate those needing a lift.

To debate the the ignorant comment is would be a wasted effort.

sigh....

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Old 04-07-2015, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Raging white View Post
Most of us own headsets. Its not that cool to make someone else clean up after you.
Yup. The idea of touching, let alone actually using, community headsets is sort of, well ... causes twitching for me at least.
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
Yup. The idea of touching, let alone actually using, community headsets is sort of, well ... causes twitching for me at least.
If that creeps you out...don't even start thinking about your hotel room. That's why you grab a fist full of sani wipes before you blast 😛
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
Yup. The idea of touching, let alone actually using, community headsets is sort of, well ... causes twitching for me at least.
When I was hired nobody used any headsets, period. Delta had a few on board (the 727's) that looked like something you'd see in a WWII movie, but we never used them.

Then, in the summer of 1987, Delta had a string of 'unfortunate events' which prompted the FAA to do an examination, i.e. months of cockpit ride-alongs to check our procedures. After about 3 months, the FAA concluded we all needed to start wearing headsets.

I guess if you wear a headset, you won't try to takeoff with no flaps, or land at the wrong airport, etc.

Anyway...we all went out and bought our own headsets, and Delta bought those heavy, awkward, DC's for the fleet. One thing I noticed after a few months using my own headset, using that mic to talk, vs. the hand held mic, I got sick less often.

Since then, I've been using my own headset, even on the jumpseat to work. I really don't care if when I get into a jet, the DC is still plugged in, it takes what, about 3 seconds, to unplug it and plug your own in? I've got much bigger issues on my mind...

like...

What's for dinner??
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
When I was hired nobody used any headsets, period. Delta had a few on board (the 727's) that looked like something you'd see in a WWII movie, but we never used them.

Then, in the summer of 1987, Delta had a string of 'unfortunate events' which prompted the FAA to do an examination, i.e. months of cockpit ride-alongs to check our procedures. After about 3 months, the FAA concluded we all needed to start wearing headsets.

I guess if you wear a headset, you won't try to takeoff with no flaps, or land at the wrong airport, etc.

Anyway...we all went out and bought our own headsets, and Delta bought those heavy, awkward, DC's for the fleet. One thing I noticed after a few months using my own headset, using that mic to talk, vs. the hand held mic, I got sick less often.

Since then, I've been using my own headset, even on the jumpseat to work. I really don't care if when I get into a jet, the DC is still plugged in, it takes what, about 3 seconds, to unplug it and plug your own in? I've got much bigger issues on my mind...

like...

What's for dinner??
I just know that in '87, you always wore a headset, faithfully guarding comm. #2.
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