Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

How do you even do that? Is that a PBS thing or is it done somewhere in iCrew?

Carl

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Hardly a rumor when the company made numerous public statements about acquiring a 100 seat aircraft long before we even traded openers.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

The Company is rumored to have approached ALPA for a significant scope concession to allow many more 76 seat jets. My posts have been aimed at educating mainline pilots why they might want to look past the 717 and understand the numbers which make airplanes like the CRj905 more desired by management and more operationally flexible. Thus, if we had to play this game defensively; we would rather have the 905's than the 717's, they make more money.

As things stand at the end of 2011, beginning of 2012, mainline has 718 airplanes. At 767 mainline jets the three to one language is triggered. 153 76 seat jets are currently authorized and management has bought every single one they were allowed to buy ... now they want more. It would take a mainline fleet growing by 49 jets to make that happen.

However, then management runs into the 255 total limit on 70/76 seat jets. As you can guess, they've maxed that limit out also.

My guess is that Management wants concessions on one of those two limits with the promise that "if we ever pull down the mainline fleet, we will pull down DCI in a proportionate fashion." We've seen that before and it failed to protect jobs in Contract 2000 because the minute things got tough the Company said "we really need these bigger RJ's to make money and stay in business" so we removed those scope protections and furloughed mainline pilots. Some, ironically, found employment on the same jets ALPA outsourced, at one fifth the pay that they were making at Delta.

Strategically, it would be smarter for Delta pilots to want the real action, the 905's, where Delta's 10K reports say the profits are. That's the more secure position and instead of looking for cheap and used, Delta management is obtaining the best and new for their "regional" operations, again.

Originally Posted by Sliceback

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingfun -

Delta pilots earned the highest average salaries in the US passenger industry in 2013.

Carl Spackler - No, we didn't.




OK, who was better?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

About two months before TA2012 dropped Bucking Bar dropped this:




Hell of an accurate rumor. I thought it was stupid then when he said it but he was spot on.

Now 3 years later I think he was still spot on and I was still right, it was stupid.

Originally Posted by satchip

The problem FTB is that the 900s may have better numbers like Bar says but they can't fill the cockpits and they have terrible reliability numbers because of it, I've heard. 717s are kicking the RJs butts and we are profiting because of it. BTW, ran into Richard and Ed in ORD the other day. They said they are looking for every 717 they can find. They want them all.

I was with you and voted NO because of the scope issue. I have to admit though that it's turned out pretty darn good in that department. How much can that be attributed to the C2012 and how much to the FAA making them have ATPS is hard to know. But I think the combination of the two is very beneficial to us as a group.

Originally Posted by Sliceback

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingfun -

Delta pilots earned the highest average salaries in the US passenger industry in 2013.

Carl Spackler - No, we didn't.




OK, who was better?

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Originally Posted by Trip7

Don't let those pesky facts get in the way of the Tea Party-like Anti-Alpa rhetoric

Originally Posted by Timbo

It's a PBS thing, just like bidding your monthly schedule. Log into Navtech/PBS and if you are eligible in June (my base month is July so the CQ range is June-Aug) then at the top of the page, it will have a tab for Recurrent Training.

Click on that and then look at the "Pairing" numbers, they will be listed numerically just like a normal trip, but when you click on one and hit "search" you will see the details; what periods, what days, etc.

You then pick the ones you want, and put "Avoid" for the ones you don't want. My typical bid says, "Avoid A period. Avoid D period" Prefer off days I need off, and then "Award Pairing number.xxxx" or "Award B periods" etc.

Originally Posted by Sliceback

OK, who was better?

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Originally Posted by Trip7

Don't let those pesky facts get in the way of the Tea Party-like Anti-Alpa rhetoric

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Pilot Wage Salary Average for 2013

SWA $229,290
DAL $174,196

http://www.airlinefinancials.com/wp-...PilotWages.png

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

About two months before TA2012 dropped Bucking Bar dropped this:




Hell of an accurate rumor. I thought it was stupid then when he said it but he was spot on.

Now 3 years later I think he was still spot on and I was still right, it was stupid.