Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-02-2015 | 04:56 AM
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Amen. It's bad enough to sit there for hours on end listening to some over 55 year old(and the list is 48% of them) muse about the end of their career and the economy and the politicians and ALPA and retirement and -all while you're trying to read your manuals on your surface to ignore them. Then go into a restaurant and add alcohol to this same person and you get them trying to shoot their watch showing what they did during Vietnam as an A- something fighter pilot in her majesty's yacht club, or they think they can land any tail in the bar including the bartender chick who is showing some love for an extra tip. It's actually pretty comical.
12-02-2015 | 05:13 AM
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Amen. It's bad enough to sit there for hours on end listening to some over 55 year old(and the list is 48% of them) muse about the end of their career and the economy and the politicians and ALPA and retirement and -all while you're trying to read your manuals on your surface to ignore them. Then go into a restaurant and add alcohol to this same person and you get them trying to shoot their watch showing what they did during Vietnam as an A- something fighter pilot in her majesty's yacht club, or they think they can land any tail in the bar including the bartender chick who is showing some love for an extra tip. It's actually pretty comical.
12-02-2015 | 05:32 AM
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Amen. It's bad enough to sit there for hours on end listening to some over 55 year old(and the list is 48% of them) muse about the end of their career and the economy and the politicians and ALPA and retirement and -all while you're trying to read your manuals on your surface to ignore them. Then go into a restaurant and add alcohol to this same person and you get them trying to shoot their watch showing what they did during Vietnam as an A- something fighter pilot in her majesty's yacht club, or they think they can land any tail in the bar including the bartender chick who is showing some love for an extra tip. It's actually pretty comical.
12-02-2015 | 06:46 AM
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The ATL CPO is having its employees search all of the V-files and confiscate any Orange swag found in them...
12-02-2015 | 06:55 AM
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haha! I think we can all relate at some point. The thing that gets me is when a guy gets offended when I don't want to get a beer. We just spent up to 8hrs in a closet sized room with each other. I know everything I could possibly want to know about you and more. We are going to do it again tomorrow.... and then the next day. I just want to turn on sports center and zone out. Its not you its me
12-02-2015 | 06:57 AM
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You still can't violate the reserve rules with the PD. Once you get down to a block of 3 days of reserve, the only way to get rid of the middle day is to drop all three days. The other one that gets you is if you have a stretch of more than 7 days you sometimes cannot drop the middle days because it may create another off day grouping and you are only allowed 4 of those in a 3-99-4 category.
I talked with another scheduler, and this is correct. You can drop whatever you want, but you have to stay within the 4-99-4 format. As crew dang told me, It seems like you can really work it using a couple iterations of pcs to slowly get things lined up the way you want. I've been in the line for 3 months now and just figuring out you can move/drop X and reserve days. I was never the smartest fish in the pond
Hope that helps.I was assuming the quote above was correct. Shedulers usually (but not always) know what they're talking about in their own sphere of expertise. If deadseal was told correctly, then a PD is different from a PB and APD. I can 100% verify that APD and PB can break the 3-99-5 rule since I did both this month. That make more sense?
12-02-2015 | 07:00 AM
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12-02-2015 | 07:00 AM
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haha! I think we can all relate at some point. The thing that gets me is when a guy gets offended when I don't want to get a beer. We just spent up to 8hrs in a closet sized room with each other. I know everything I could possibly want to know about you and more. We are going to do it again tomorrow.... and then the next day. I just want to turn on sports center and zone out. Its not you its me
I get it if you want to zone out. I just can't contemplate spending all my time in a hotel room after spending all day in a small cockpit. In fact I only bring a laptop on the road these days because of some obligations I have to a boy scout troop. Prior to that I never brought my laptop either--too much great stuff to see in most layover cities.
12-02-2015 | 07:15 AM
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Not true. A Personal Drop (P/D) is not an X Day. I am in a 3-99-5 category, and have P/D days in every one of the last 5 months except November (because Reserve coverage was insufficient). In every one of those months, I have exceeded the maximum 5 'off' periods - because a P/D is NOT an X day, and thus does not trigger the rule. Again, "Move X days" is different, and must obey the rule. On the schedule, P/D displays in the "STAT" column just like "SICK". Additionally, I have P/D the middle of three days, and had two one-day periods of reserve in all those months. Want to see my schedule? Hope that helps.
I can add 100% verification that a Personal Drop P/D can break the 3-99-5 rule.
Hope that helps.I can add 100% verification that a Personal Drop P/D can break the 3-99-5 rule.
12-02-2015 | 07:36 AM
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I tried to PD a day with ample coverage and it denied it. I think it said "work group violation" or something. Is there anything other than not enough coverage that would shoot down a PD? Cause it just happened to me. 5 req/14 available
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