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Old 04-23-2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
nothing made my eyes roll more than the dummies at my regional that said it was on you to know when you were leaving the class B. They'd go on these long diatribes on how to figure out when you were leaving it. Derp.
Had to love the DTW aero brain trust.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I was almost encouraged by what my rep (whom I trust) had to say today. His take was that the MEC was not antsy to do a deal just for the sake of getting it done--at least, not yet.

If he's right, that's about the best news possible given the surrender-monkeyist language from Donatelli. Who is vetting the MEC's releases?

My rep did say communication from the administration to the reps has been abysmal.

Communication seems to be an issue on multiple levels.
Didn't the MEC just have a Special Meeting? I hope the Reps got all the communication they needed there, from the Negotiating Comity, as well as from the Administration.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Didn't the MEC just have a Special Meeting? I hope they got all the communication they needed there, from the Negotiating Comity, as well as from the Administration.
He indicated that up until the meeting, they only received the same updates the rank and file got.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
He indicated that up until the meeting, they only received the same updates the rank and file got.
Wow. That's disturbing. You would think they would be kept in the loop a bit more than that.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Wow. That's disturbing. You would think they would be kept in the loop a bit more than that.
I agree. Like I said, I do trust him. But in case I misunderstood, if anyone can verify with other reps, that would be advisable.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Had to love the DTW aero brain trust.
I always wondered why DTW ATC was the only place that routinely told you that you were leaving Class B on long vectors.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
He indicated that up until the meeting, they only received the same updates the rank and file got.
I don't think that's true. The reps are frequently kept in the loop as to what is going on, just maybe not minute to minute occurrences.

It's called a negotiating committee, not negotiating MEC. The NC members must be empowered to make decisions within the bounds of the direction they are given. If at any point they cannot accomplish that OR feel the need to recalibrate their vector they will report back to the MEC as a body (they don't answer to individual reps, which is an important distinction to make) for clarification/direction.

If your rep has a problem I hope he does something productive about it like speaking with the admin and seeking support from the other reps to make any necessary changes...NOT sowing discontent among the membership because business isn't being conducted according to his individual liking.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
You mean the secret class B they don't give us charts for?

Dumbest reg on the books.
You do know that the confines of the class B and the altitudes of the sectors are on the low chart in Jepp FD pro if you zoom in far enough.
Old 04-23-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
You do know that the confines of the class B and the altitudes of the sectors are on the low chart in Jepp FD pro if you zoom in far enough.
And with the GPS positioning... wait, never mind.
Old 04-23-2015 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dtfl
Yep - and there are many reasons for increased usage of SLOA. FOr one - they track "days lost" vs trip days now so their #s are higher. We were flying higher ALVs and we are an older pilot force.


My wife and I discussed this last night (She is a former HR person). The Co wants to reduce costs but if you are sick you are sick. So how do they reduce "waste and abuse?" BAnk system? Yeah..how would we implement that? I am sure the NWS guys who lost hundreds or thousands in the merger would be happy to start over with a new bank system - not. So do we get 60 hours? Or do they prorate based upon years seniority? Or do they waste numerous man hours computing some formula based upon past SLOA to come up with a bank #? THose all suck in my book.

Reduce the unverified to 75 or 80 hours. That reduces 25% of your "abuse" - translate that into $ and move on.

I don't doubt that sick leave is costing them more money. But in my opinion, the main reason is, at least in my catagory 7ERB in DTW and NYC, they are so short, that every sick call has to be covered by a greenslip. Who's fault is that? Not mine. I didn't decide to put off hiring. I didn't decide not to backfill on the last 8 AE's. Marketing/Crew Resources dropped that ball. Now, because FO's in those bases have been rolling the thunder and making more than Captains everytime someone calls in sick, they want to change our sick time. I don't think so. Well I should say, "I hope not."

Unfortunately, our proactively engaged union seems more eager to help solve the company's self induced problems than they are in getting us the CBA that we deserve during the best environment in my lifetime.

Edit: I re-read my last statement and realized I've been buying into the forum hysteria a little too much. I hope the last 7-8 years of results aren't an indicator of future performance. This contract, in my opinion, is our last chance to really get a good working agreement before the next downturn. I know the industry has changed for the better but I don't think we will see an environment like this again in my lifetime. If we do I was wrong...which is good for us too, but I wish I felt like my union was really trying to capitalize on our current profitability to secure an outstanding contract now, but I don't.

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