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Old 05-01-2015 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
Fo's should let the reps know this should not be axed on the next contract. I am hearing from ALPA guys and mgmt. pilots that this is going away in some fashion on the next agreement. If true, this is a HUGE concession to all FO's and they should vote no if they ax it...
Axe it how? Take the trip without pay protection?
Old 05-01-2015 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
Fo's should let the reps know this should not be axed on the next contract. I am hearing from ALPA guys and mgmt. pilots that this is going away in some fashion on the next agreement. If true, this is a HUGE concession to all FO's and they should vote no if they ax it...
Which ALPA guys told you this. We lost it in the 1113 contract and worked hard to get the recovery obligation dropped. I have heard no one mention it going away.
Old 05-01-2015 | 11:17 AM
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What about the hat?



Originally Posted by buzzpat
Black and gold thongs....that's what I heard anyway.
Old 05-01-2015 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Which ALPA guys told you this. We lost it in the 1113 contract and worked hard to get the recovery obligation dropped. I have heard no one mention it going away.
I obviously wont mention any names(because it is not official), but I can assure you they are looking at changing it..I agree, we gave up something to get what we have now, and I hope they don't try to change it...I am hearing ALPA is willing to give it up for something in return because they say it only affects a small % of pilots. But in reality it affects all FO's. I hope if they try to change it all FO's say no way, and vote accordingly.
Old 05-01-2015 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
What about the hat?
I'm hearing we get to keep it but it goes to all gold with a black band and it gets a little bigger and rounder.
Old 05-01-2015 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
I obviously wont mention any names(because it is not official), but I can assure you they are looking at changing it..I agree, we gave up something to get what we have now, and I hope they don't try to change it...I am hearing ALPA is willing to give it up for something in return because they say it only affects a small % of pilots. But in reality it affects all FO's. I hope if they try to change it all FO's say no way, and vote accordingly.
I am hearing the same thing.. FWIW, there are few regulars here (they are FO's) that have openly advocated for getting rid of it.
Old 05-01-2015 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
What about the hat?
Would it feel right wearing a thong without a hat?

I didn't think so.
Old 05-01-2015 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
I obviously wont mention any names(because it is not official), but I can assure you they are looking at changing it..I agree, we gave up something to get what we have now, and I hope they don't try to change it...I am hearing ALPA is willing to give it up for something in return because they say it only affects a small % of pilots. But in reality it affects all FO's. I hope if they try to change it all FO's say no way, and vote accordingly.

If it affects such a small % of FO's, it shouldn't matter too much for Management and they won't care either way if we politely say no to getting rid of it.

If I get a good trip that happens to be with an LCA, I don't want to be at the company's mercy under 23K. It's one of the last good deals for FO's who've had to wait an extra 5 years to upgrade to Captain.

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Old 05-01-2015 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
...We lost it in the 1113 contract and worked hard to get the recovery obligation dropped...
So how was it in the 1113 contract? Get removed from the trip then have a recovery obligation to fly something besides what your seniority got you awarded?
Old 05-01-2015 | 12:20 PM
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I know a lot of Captains that get their trips bought too, so it effect Captains. nobody is going to be happy having the trips they could bid and hold bought and then just put at the top of the reserve list for any trip. Going to Dubai? Try Accra.

I'm sure they get mad seeing a NYC73NB getting GS #9, but, get over it. The people who make a killing on it are truly a small % but it effects everyone.
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