This is incorrect. I've flown with guys that openly admit to it... they are the vast minority, but it does happen.

I have a big problem with punishing the many instead of dealing with the deeds of a few.

 

Your understanding of the freeze is the same as mine.

I didn't realize I was unclear...since we are betting on how junior NYC 717a will go...anyway, how junior it goes will largely depend upon guys freezes being over.

On another note, I think in the recent postings on this thread, we can see how even a concessionary TA could pass. Nobody is looking at the broader implications of individual issues. We solved managements problems 10 years ago. It's time to have our problems solved now...NO concessions.

Even if a change sounds reasonable, taken in isolation, if it's a concession, there is no reason to approve it.

 

Let's set Sick aside. Both issues really are best served by the negotiators doing their thing, but I'm OK to leave Sick where it is. If they find a solution that targets egregious behavior, then they find one.

As far as the other issue, my beef was with the fact you're constantly pushing this issue to the forefront, alone. Which made me think "LCA completely going off the reservation", and overplaying his hand. I hadn't considered something else, like perhaps In-Command, so maybe you were innocently taken aback, and you're just sincerely sounding the alarm. Over and over.

That still doesn't explain the downplaying of the negatives, or the strange defeatism over the outcome, just because RA "mentioned it". The company would prefer less inefficiencies: we all understand that. We prefer advancement and money. They understand that. How about we just let the negotiators negotiate, and not get our unmentionables in a wad over "things RA has mentioned" in some undefined context?

 

You are allowed to bid a first time captain position even if still subject to a freeze from a prior AE or VD.

Your new captain freeze is added to whatever you had left from your prior freeze.

 

This is correct info!

 

What if it's to a new category? I understand you can be let out of a freeze to go there, but do they also add your existing freeze (if you've got one) to that category? I think LAX 717 is the only one left that applies. For now.

 

Then you would have to deal with that internally amongst the pilot group, and the union. The protections on union employees requires the company to punish everyone over a few bad apples. If someone admits sick time abuse, you must turn them into pro-standards.

 

Lets just change it to 100 hours of PTO and the "abuse" goes away. Problem solved. Next.

Oh, the company can't afford that? Yes, they can. Not my problem. Next.

 

Before I agree or disagree, what happens to the other 170 hours (for us old guys)? Does it remain verified? Other companies that use PTO have their vacation time built into the PTO...

Denny

 

I would rather ask a dumb question anonymously here than confirm to my mentor and anyone else I am an idiot......

End of sims to IOE (for 7ER at least) is now nearly a month break. And then another 3 to 4 weeks waiting for TOE. I have been told to WS trips between IOE and TOE because even though I have a bid schedule for May, once IOE is done my schedule doesn't matter but I can WS. I have also heard not to WS because the could mess with my TOE scheduling. Lastly I have heard the training pay will stop when I finish IOE.

So my questions 1) if there really is a month break between IOE and TOE does my reserve schedule already assigned just go away because I am not "qualified" to fly it, but I could WS and fly the same trips? 2) Would scheduling WS between IOE and TOE really mess with TOE scheduling or would they just canx the WS? (yes I am former military and do not yet have a full grasp of bidding if I got this wrong) 3) If there is a month break between IOE and TOE and training pay stops at IOE and I don't WS, I not getting paid for a month, right?

I know this is a way jr question for this forum, but it is not new hire or poolie and doesn't deserve its own thread.