Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-18-2009 | 01:17 PM
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11-18-2009 | 01:21 PM
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One of the competitive advantages that SkyTeam has in the current Japanese fight (bilateral/open skies, Haneda, and JAL) is that SPA is a proponent of greater access and has a track record between the companies and labor to prove they can make it work for all parties. APA has opposed antitrust immunity with BA and JAL. OneWorld is suffering as a result. The Japanese by culture are very loyal, however, so AMR has a signficant advantage in what should be a dollars and cents decision on JAL. The US Government has significant financial and military needs outside of the airline industry, so they may be negotiating away our jobs for us on the bilateral.
11-18-2009 | 01:23 PM
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So we aren't allowed to talk about anything on here we weren't around for?
By the way, did you not see the dripping irony in you criticizing acl on "articulating a want" instead of a plan....and then posted the mission statement without any details or facts in regards of how to accomplish it like you so arrogantly puff yourself up with in every post.
11-18-2009 | 01:28 PM
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11-18-2009 | 01:31 PM
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I'm always interested in learning more about all the work that is done on behalf of the Delta pilots.
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11-18-2009 | 01:31 PM
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It only counts as gospel and truth if slowplay or one of the other unionoids post it.
He just doesn't handle it very well when he's away from the message board that he controls...
11-18-2009 | 01:33 PM
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You write about things that you were not here for and through those writings you show you know nothing about them.
The ALPA Claim had nothing to do with the pension. If the pension had been preserved, the Claim would have still been paid. The number was the same. You weren't a Delta pilot when it was paid out.
The pension was grossly underfunded (about 38% at termination) and according to PBGC will cost them $900 million of their money. It will cost the plan participants (the guys who were actually here and had real losses) a lot more than that.
The pension was terminated because it met the standards for termination. A qualified ERISA benefit cannot be negotiated away. Your assertion is insulting to those that worked so hard to make sure you had a company to come to work for.
Oh, and the JCBA tightened small jet scope. You know that. If you added up the total number of NWA and DAL permitted aircraft, it was far greater than the 255 limit.
So please, how about sticking to facts. All these facts have been clearly presented in official Court and ALPA publications.
Now back to your regularly scheduled "I want more" Latest and Greatest...
The ALPA Claim had nothing to do with the pension. If the pension had been preserved, the Claim would have still been paid. The number was the same. You weren't a Delta pilot when it was paid out.
The pension was grossly underfunded (about 38% at termination) and according to PBGC will cost them $900 million of their money. It will cost the plan participants (the guys who were actually here and had real losses) a lot more than that.
The pension was terminated because it met the standards for termination. A qualified ERISA benefit cannot be negotiated away. Your assertion is insulting to those that worked so hard to make sure you had a company to come to work for.
Oh, and the JCBA tightened small jet scope. You know that. If you added up the total number of NWA and DAL permitted aircraft, it was far greater than the 255 limit.
So please, how about sticking to facts. All these facts have been clearly presented in official Court and ALPA publications.
Now back to your regularly scheduled "I want more" Latest and Greatest...
As for the pension, at termination yes, because all of the early outs. A longer payout period for the company would have solved that. I am not going to start splitting hairs on this crud. You just pick and choose what to respond to.
You wanted some to the point stuff for the JAL JV and I gave it. How about, wow ACL those are some good ideas instead of the normal managing of expectations, or as you like to call it interjecting fact!
11-18-2009 | 01:36 PM
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Why does our union get so mad at us? Maybe our 2.5% isn't enough to warrant permission to question.
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11-18-2009 | 01:38 PM
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11-18-2009 | 01:39 PM
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So we aren't allowed to talk about anything on here we weren't around for?
By the way, did you not see the dripping irony in you criticizing acl on "articulating a want" instead of a plan....and then posted the mission statement without any details or facts in regards of how to accomplish it like you so arrogantly puff yourself up with in every post.
By the way, did you not see the dripping irony in you criticizing acl on "articulating a want" instead of a plan....and then posted the mission statement without any details or facts in regards of how to accomplish it like you so arrogantly puff yourself up with in every post.
If you ever want to play poker, let me know. I'll deal your cards face up!
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