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Old 10-02-2015 | 06:48 PM
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Old 10-02-2015 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Yes, the run order is drops, then white slips, then swaps.
I think I know the answer, but here's a variation on the question:

Does PCS run drops for all pilots, then WS for all pilots, then swaps for all pilots? OR does it run drops/WS/swaps for one pilot, then move on to the next?
Old 10-03-2015 | 06:12 AM
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Please forgive my contract reading comprehension and laziness. If you swap a trip- into a 3day for 2 day trips- are you pay protected for the cancelation of the 2 last legs? The credit for the 3 day is 7 hits greater than the credit for the 2 day trips if that makes a difference. Also, are you pay protected on a gs pickup in the same scenario? Thanks very much.
Old 10-03-2015 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Collusion. I can see this now. Secretly, all the airline managers are getting together to gain the upper hand on labor. Its going to get ugly, we need to wake up.

AF/KLM reduces, Delta gains. Delta reduces, AF/KLM gains. Be ready for lower than expected numbers and "the sky is falling" approach.
You might want to take a look at the financials of the 3 big Euro carriers. Then take a look at the rate of expansion of the ME3 and Turkish into their markets. Collusion? Hardly. It's a distorted market. You're right, it's going to get ugly, but not for the reason you think.

As AF/KLM restructures, how's your scope clause looking?
Old 10-03-2015 | 08:19 AM
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Old 10-03-2015 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
You might want to take a look at the financials of the 3 big Euro carriers. Then take a look at the rate of expansion of the ME3 and Turkish into their markets. Collusion? Hardly. It's a distorted market. You're right, it's going to get ugly, but not for the reason you think.

As AF/KLM restructures, how's your scope clause looking?
Are you implying just because EASKs worked for us the last 10 years they may not be the best metric for us the next 10? Hmm. OFG
Old 10-03-2015 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Corndog
Please forgive my contract reading comprehension and laziness. If you swap a trip- into a 3day for 2 day trips- are you pay protected for the cancelation of the 2 last legs? The credit for the 3 day is 7 hits greater than the credit for the 2 day trips if that makes a difference. Also, are you pay protected on a gs pickup in the same scenario? Thanks very much.
I think maybe your laziness extends into writing posts as well. I can't make any sense out of what you are asking. But... You aren't pay protected for anything you do on your own. Swaps, drops, etc.
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy
Are you implying just because EASKs worked for us the last 10 years they may not be the best metric for us the next 10? Hmm. OFG
Certainly with the known fleet plans Delta will be able to reduce our number of departures to Europe using EASK. During that time we will replace most of our 218 seat 767's with 287 seat A330's and some 320 seat A350's. If the 777 rumor turns into reality we may see more of those in the transatlantic market.
The situation with AF/KLM is fluid because they are in deep trouble. Their current plans are to downsize aircraft size however they may now cancel the 787 order. They are however in deep trouble. I hope RA has a plan B for European feed in the event it all collapses.
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooster435
I think maybe your laziness extends into writing posts as well. I can't make any sense out of what you are asking. But... You aren't pay protected for anything you do on your own. Swaps, drops, etc.
That is completely wrong. Once a trip is on your line you are fully pay protected. It does not matter how the trip gets on your line. You can pick up a trip via swap or WS and it can noop 1 minute after you acknowledge it and your protected.
GReenslips are however a different animal. If the trip no ops or a portion cancels it is treated as a WS. It becomes pay protected for both pay and credit however you do not receive double pay.
Old 10-03-2015 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is completely wrong. Once a trip is on your line you are fully pay protected. It does not matter how the trip gets on your line. You can pick up a trip via swap or WS and it can noop 1 minute after you acknowledge it and your protected.
GReenslips are however a different animal. If the trip no ops or a portion cancels it is treated as a WS. It becomes pay protected for both pay and credit however you do not receive double pay.
I got a 1 Day GS the day of the power outage at LGA. Within 30 mins they called me back to cancel it. Pay protected on single pay. 20 mins later I got called for a 2 day GS. It was like a GS and a half! Ended up being 27 hour 2-Day!
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