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Herkflyr 12-02-2015 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by duece12345 (Post 2020062)
haha! I think we can all relate at some point. The thing that gets me is when a guy gets offended when I don't want to get a beer. We just spent up to 8hrs in a closet sized room with each other. I know everything I could possibly want to know about you and more. We are going to do it again tomorrow.... and then the next day. I just want to turn on sports center and zone out. Its not you its me :D

Hey if it is you and not me I don't get offended. I always offer to buy a couple of beers, if the F/O is interested (just "paying it forward" after a long time in the right seat).

I get it if you want to zone out. I just can't contemplate spending all my time in a hotel room after spending all day in a small cockpit. In fact I only bring a laptop on the road these days because of some obligations I have to a boy scout troop. Prior to that I never brought my laptop either--too much great stuff to see in most layover cities.

RockyBoy 12-02-2015 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 2020104)
Not true. A Personal Drop (P/D) is not an X Day. I am in a 3-99-5 category, and have P/D days in every one of the last 5 months except November (because Reserve coverage was insufficient). In every one of those months, I have exceeded the maximum 5 'off' periods - because a P/D is NOT an X day, and thus does not trigger the rule. Again, "Move X days" is different, and must obey the rule. On the schedule, P/D displays in the "STAT" column just like "SICK". Additionally, I have P/D the middle of three days, and had two one-day periods of reserve in all those months. Want to see my schedule?;) Hope that helps.



I can add 100% verification that a Personal Drop P/D can break the 3-99-5 rule.

Dang. Second time in a week I've now been wrong. I know PB days can go wherever, I thought PD days could not violate the reserve rules. Guess I'm wrong on that one. Good to know.

deadseal 12-02-2015 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 2020116)
Dang. Second time in a week I've now been wrong. I know PB days can go wherever, I thought PD days could not violate the reserve rules. Guess I'm wrong on that one. Good to know.

I tried to PD a day with ample coverage and it denied it. I think it said "work group violation" or something. Is there anything other than not enough coverage that would shoot down a PD? Cause it just happened to me. 5 req/14 available

JungleBus 12-02-2015 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 2019586)
He did command nose down. And he pressed that button. Had the copilot released the stick, they might have recovered. But unlike in a 757, he had no clue what the guy next to him was doing.

In the report, the captain only pressed the priority override button twice, and only for 2 seconds each. You need to press it continuously (or at least the first 40 seconds, then the override latches).

This is definitely an experience and training issue, but part of the problem is that the Airbus is so easy enough to fly when everything is working that management has been able to get away with hiring low experience pilots and giving them barebones training with few consequences - after all, the automation almost never fails. When it does, though, the Airbus seems to from a very easy plane to fly to a somewhat difficult one that may be challenging for an ab initio automation cripple...and with insufficient feedback to the PM of just how badly the PF is screwing the pooch.

captkdobbs 12-02-2015 07:57 AM

Another 'newbie' question(s) about PB days in the bank.
I switch back and forth between line/reserve (because of relative seniority, not choice:o) and have several PB days available.

The scheduling handbook doesn't specify much about requirements to use PB days to cover a trip.

1) Does there need to be 'adequate reserve coverage' (all blue in grid) for me to be awarded PB days if I have enough to cover the whole trip?

2) If granted, will it allow me to pick up stuff earlier in the month? (above the ALV+ limit)

badflaps 12-02-2015 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2020110)
Hey if it is you and not me I don't get offended. I always offer to buy a couple of beers, if the F/O is interested (just "paying it forward" after a long time in the right seat).

I get it if you want to zone out. I just can't contemplate spending all my time in a hotel room after spending all day in a small cockpit. In fact I only bring a laptop on the road these days because of some obligations I have to a boy scout troop. Prior to that I never brought my laptop either--too much great stuff to see in most layover cities.

I have never seen Las Vegas in daylight.

dc10guy 12-02-2015 08:09 AM

What is the latest you can sign up for international jumpseat. Going out of US.

badflaps 12-02-2015 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2020048)
Amen. It's bad enough to sit there for hours on end listening to some over 55 year old(and the list is 48% of them) muse about the end of their career and the economy and the politicians and ALPA and retirement and -all while you're trying to read your manuals on your surface to ignore them. Then go into a restaurant and add alcohol to this same person and you get them trying to shoot their watch showing what they did during Vietnam as an A- something fighter pilot in her majesty's yacht club, or they think they can land any tail in the bar including the bartender chick who is showing some love for an extra tip. It's actually pretty comical.

I flew with B-17, B-24, and Hump guys, now there... were some stories.

Sputnik 12-02-2015 08:15 AM

So....saw the JFK lounge. *** is up with ATL? I mean I know the ATL pilot lounge is ghetto compared to, well, your average ghetto. I just thought that was Delta standard. And free (far as I can tell) coffee. Hell, it has coffee.

GucciBoy 12-02-2015 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 2020156)
So....saw the JFK lounge. *** is up with ATL? I mean I know the ATL pilot lounge is ghetto compared to, well, your average ghetto. I just thought that was Delta standard. And free (far as I can tell) coffee. Hell, it has coffee.


I'm guessing you've never been to the LGA lounge if you think ATL is ghetto.


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