I'm still fairly new, but I'm not sure if this is correct. You can P/D reserve days as long as the coverage allows it and lose that day of pay. But I'm not sure you can violate the reserve rules when you do it. So let's say you have a 3-99-4 for example. If you had a 5 day block of reserve I'm not sure you can drop the middle day of it because it would violate the 3 day rule. I'm pretty sure I've been denied a drop even though there was plenty of coverage for this reason.

If somebody knows more, please let me know but I think I've been blocked for this reason.

You still can't violate the reserve rules with the PD. Once you get down to a block of 3 days of reserve, the only way to get rid of the middle day is to drop all three days. The other one that gets you is if you have a stretch of more than 7 days you sometimes cannot drop the middle days because it may create another off day grouping and you are only allowed 4 of those in a 3-99-4 category.

I guess I misunderstood what happened. I thought they were both stalled and both had the FO full aft and the CA trying to break the stall.

I talked with another scheduler, and this is correct. You can drop whatever you want, but you have to stay within the 4-99-4 format. As crew dang told me, It seems like you can really work it using a couple iterations of pcs to slowly get things lined up the way you want. I've been in the line for 3 months now and just figuring out you can move/drop X and reserve days. I was never the smartest fish in the pond

Actually, I think with a PD as in "payback day," you can drop that middle day.;).

Denny

I guess I was incorrect, I thought PB, PD, and APD could all break the 3-99-5 rule.

I had reserve 1-5 December and used a PB day on 3 December. I had reserve from 24-27 December and was able to use my APD on the 25th and then X-day move to get the 27th off.

I'm confused; you said you can't violate the 3-99-5 . . . but you successfully turned reserve of December 1 2 3 4 5 into reserve of December 1 2 Xday 4 5 ?

The December 1st/2nd and 4th/5th are 2-day workblocks which would violate the grouping rule. So you were able to do that with the payback day?

I might be selective. But then that's hard because the 71 guys are pretty darn good and I'll never click my slam. On a 30 hour I just want to go on a nice long walk, eat a $10 dinner that is worth $10 instead of $40 for a $10 and go to bed.

Sleepy introverts unite!

A big 'ol introverted 'he11 yeah!' to that!

This is in the report and contradicts what you're saying about not pressing the button and canceling out each other's input:

"The FDR recorded that the PIC side stick priority button was pushed twice with the
period of two and five seconds. This condition occurred during the dual input while
the aircraft was in aerodynamic stall. The stall and the dual input were continuing
until end of the recording."

Further:
"Without clear coordination on the role of PM and PF, this resulted in both
crewmembers providing separate inputs to the flight control system. With the SIC
pulling back on the side stick for most of this segment, the nose down (forward)
pitching commands of the PIC were ineffective because of the summing function of
the system, resulting in no effective or sustained nose down commands to the flight
controls."

In the AF 447 accident, the Captain only realized there was dual input when it was too late. I'd say it's a problem. I still think it's a good airplane, with other safety features that are great. But anyone flying it needs to be keenly aware of this design flaw, and have a plan to mitigate it. Positive transfer of control seems to be the single best place to start. I do think Airbus needs to somehow enhance the dual input feedback.