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bohicagain 05-06-2016 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2123609)
For the longest time there was no such animal as Economy Comfort, and we dh countless times without it.

This sucks...but is has nothing to do with pilots and contract negotiations. It is about the company trying to generate more revenue, plain and simple...it still sucks though.

How is this extra revenue?
Isn't this a free upgrade from coach for frequent flyers that can't get first class

Herkflyr 05-06-2016 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 2123614)
How is this extra revenue?
Isn't this a free upgrade from coach for frequent flyers that can't get first class

As of today you are correct. However per the recent announcement Economy Comfort is going to be a new (more expensive) fare class, able to be purchased well in advance. That, coupled with the "no selecting EC within 24 hrs" rule means most dh crewmembers can plan on rarely if ever seeing EC on deadheads in the future.

That sucks. However I don't see it as an anti pilot move, just a revenue initiative.

deadseal 05-06-2016 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2123609)
For the longest time there was no such animal as Economy Comfort, and we dh countless times without it.

This sucks...but is has nothing to do with pilots and contract negotiations. It is about the company trying to generate more revenue, plain and simple...it still sucks though.

Thanks, this makes me happy. I like the company and want to do the right thing for both them and us. It just bummed me out thinking this may have been some kind of ***** slap. I am all for sitting in the way back if it makes the company money. except for the free tv on the 73s one seat is much like another

MikeF16 05-06-2016 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2123609)
For the longest time there was no such animal as Economy Comfort, and we dh countless times without it.

This sucks...but is has nothing to do with pilots and contract negotiations. It is about the company trying to generate more revenue, plain and simple...it still sucks though.

I agree about their intentions, but as previously stated this changes the status quo of my work environment and cannot be accepted. I hope it doesn't take Tim getting another 45 day unpaid vacation to get ALPA moving this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOcvH4b0Opk

Trip7 05-06-2016 05:21 AM

More revenue more profit sharing. Bigger fish to fry than EC seats on DH

Bs8080 05-06-2016 05:26 AM

Whats the junior CA DOH on the 320?

Check Essential 05-06-2016 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2123620)
the "no selecting EC within 24 hrs" rule means most dh crewmembers can plan on rarely if ever seeing EC on deadheads in the future.

That sucks. However I don't see it as an anti pilot move, just a revenue initiative.

We are in Section 6. Status quo is in effect.
If management makes a change that "sucks" for working pilots, it is illegal.
Their intent is irrelevant.

MikeF16 05-06-2016 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2123647)
More revenue more profit sharing. Bigger fish to fry than EC seats on DH

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Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...

Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.

Viking busdvr 05-06-2016 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bs8080 (Post 2123650)
Whats the junior CA DOH on the 320?

There is a big difference between Delta South DOH, and PNW DOH for those positions. You're better off just asking for the seniority number.....

Trip7 05-06-2016 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2123658)
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...

Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.

Those are contractual items. Our PWA AFAIK doesn't stipulate that pilots must have an EC seat on a Domestic DH.


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