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waldo135 05-04-2016 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by ColdUpHere (Post 2122046)
Seems odd that a category can show zero reserve coverage on a given day and then magically Scheduling pulls a rabbit out of their hat and covers one or two trips with reserves they "didn't have."

Anyone know how this happens?

Not sure where you're looking, but they sometimes cover with reserves from another base as well.

JamesBond 05-04-2016 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2122087)
Not sure where you're looking, but they sometimes cover with reserves from another base as well.

And that should cost them. It doesn't. The manning formula is a unicorn

deadseal 05-04-2016 08:01 AM

Should it? Maybe I'm old school military, but seems like if you are on the hook for reserve and they are paying you, they should be able to use you however they see fit. Maybe my sight picture is too narrow on this and there are other trickle down effects I don't see

Speed Select 05-04-2016 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2122220)
Should it? Maybe I'm old school military, but seems like if you are on the hook for reserve and they are paying you, they should be able to use you however they see fit. Maybe my sight picture is too narrow on this and there are other trickle down effects I don't see

Furthermore, why even have domiciles? [sarcasm]

Maybe I'm a SNAP, but it's your mentality that's driving pilots out of the military. "To hell with quality of life, we gotta green up the slides!"

Instructional fix: widen your sight picture.

JamesBond 05-04-2016 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2122220)
Should it? Maybe I'm old school military, but seems like if you are on the hook for reserve and they are paying you, they should be able to use you however they see fit. Maybe my sight picture is too narrow on this and there are other trickle down effects I don't see


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 2122226)
Furthermore, why even have domiciles? [sarcasm]

Maybe I'm a SNAP, but it's your mentality that's driving pilots out of the military. "To hell with quality of life, we gotta green up the slides!"

Instructional fix: widen your sight picture.

Give the guy a break Select. He missed my point though. My point is that the company is running bases short on reserve coverage and that effects the number one guy in that category as he cannot drop a trip. The manning formula is supposed to fix that after so much time and shortage of reserves. I am not really seeing that hence my contention that it is a unicorn. He is right to a degree in that as a reserve pilot you are essentially salaried as opposed to hourly, so when you are on the hook for reserve you should be at their beck and call. To believe that you should be able to bid reserve and take the month off is featherbedding. I'm not sure that benefits us really but if you want to make the argument have at it. And if that were the case reserve would go uber senior. Ido believe that reserve pilots should be able to pass on a trip until they are the most junior available though. That was some can avoid destinations/trips they do not want to fly.

Klondike Bear 05-04-2016 09:12 AM

How about letting them still us reserves to cover out of base flying, but have it effect the manning formula the same way a GS is supposed to?

JamesBond 05-04-2016 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2122258)
How about letting them still us reserves to cover out of base flying, but have it effect the manning formula the same way a GS is supposed to?

That was what I was trying to get at.

notEnuf 05-04-2016 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2122258)
How about letting them still us reserves to cover out of base flying, but have it effect the manning formula the same way a GS is supposed to?

The manning formula goes out the window with the amount of training we are doing. The constant adjustment ensures the formula is recalculated almost daily. Besides what penalty or restitution is made to the pilots if it is out of balance? NONE.

deadseal 05-04-2016 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 2122226)
Furthermore, why even have domiciles? [sarcasm]

Maybe I'm a SNAP, but it's your mentality that's driving pilots out of the military. "To hell with quality of life, we gotta green up the slides!"

Instructional fix: widen your sight picture.

Lighten up francis, instead of gettin all 3rd grader on me, maybe come up with valid points, like trip dropping for reserve coverage. That makes sense to the caveman over here. Or as roger Moore said, make it function like green slipping. Regardless chill brobama....it's all good, I wear orange

MikeF16 05-05-2016 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 2120328)
But to help out crew scheduling- try to only put in for trips you like to fly. Adjust your parameters. It saves them a ton of time.

There are so many varieties of ways CS can cut up trips, you are really shooting yourself in the foot if you get too specific. Case in point, out of base pilot puts "minimum 4 hours to report" as an option. Then there's a GS with a DH to his home town that leaves in 40 minutes, layover, and fly a leg to ATL. The commuter just lost a 2 day GS where he wouldn't have even had to have lifted a finger until day 2. Up to you, but I always have a blanket in-base GS on file.


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