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WhatNow 05-06-2016 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2123926)
There will be no excuses for raggety nails or floopy hair...

It's always interesting to see what our flight attendants look like getting off the aircraft in international destinations. The assortment of coats, scarves, boots, luggage, hats ect... is always varied and interesting. Emirates walks by and they are all so boring. Just one standard professional look. They actually require their pursers to make sure the flight attendants look like that!

Purple Drank 05-06-2016 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 2123657)
We are in Section 6. Status quo is in effect.
If management makes a change that "sucks" for working pilots, it is illegal.
Their intent is irrelevant.

Exactly. And they can always lie about their "intent."

I am optimistic that dalpa will engage on this. It seems to be a clean kill.

Purple Drank 05-06-2016 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2123620)

That sucks. However I don't see it as an anti pilot move, just a revenue initiative.

I'm not surprised you're siding with the company.

Cmon man. Push back! Fight! Show some leadership. We don't need more weenies.

GogglesPisano 05-06-2016 12:18 PM

Sounds like the Company wants to be able to sell these seats right up to departure time. Not sure why they can't fill these with nonrev's (even COBUS/DH) after all the revenue pax have been assigned -- or is that still allowed?

Herkflyr 05-06-2016 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 2123938)
I'm not surprised you're siding with the company.

Cmon man. Push back! Fight! Show some leadership. We don't need more weenies.

Blah blah blah. Save your insults for the local middle school twitter feeds. I'm not "siding" with anyone or anything. Maybe there is a "status quo" violation (hint: 90% of those posting here using that term haven't a clue as to what it actually means). Maybe there isn't. It is up to our ALPA leadership to discuss and come to conclusions, then move forward from there, like the PS grievance. If it is, then I expect us to spank the company hard.

But perpetual "boy who Cried Wolf" crisis mode is not leadership nor a 'backbone." This week's "crisis" is next week's barely remembered afterthought, discarded to lament the next crisis.

WhatNow 05-06-2016 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2123940)
Sounds like the Company wants to be able to sell these seats right up to departure time. Not sure why they can't fill these with nonrev's (even COBUS/DH) after all the revenue pax have been assigned -- or is that still allowed?

It's still allowed. In fact the software will fill the non revs into those seats first. The problem is that as a positive space DH in coach there is no software to upgrade you to EC. The non revs will get the seats and you will stay where you are unless you can get the agent to manually upgrade the PSUPS first. Upgrade to first is automatic. Upgrade to EC requires the agent to make it happen. Good luck with that in Atlanta!

Scoop 05-06-2016 01:59 PM

Regarding the change in policy to EC - the Union is on it. From a Rep on Chit Chat:

"The MEC is aware of this. I took this to the admin today. There was no warning or consultations with us over this issue. Look for an update from the Communications Committee tomorrow."

Scoop

Ray Red 05-06-2016 02:18 PM

It is possible that we would have to wait until a new policy went into effect before it would be considered a status quo issue. Right now they are just saying they will change the status quo in the future. No one has been injured yet.

scambo1 05-06-2016 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by WhatNow (Post 2123967)
It's still allowed. In fact the software will fill the non revs into those seats first. The problem is that as a positive space DH in coach there is no software to upgrade you to EC. The non revs will get the seats and you will stay where you are unless you can get the agent to manually upgrade the PSUPS first. Upgrade to first is automatic. Upgrade to EC requires the agent to make it happen. Good luck with that in Atlanta!

Atlanta! Sheesh, pfffew, dang!

Other day I show up at the gate 30 minutes before boarding in atl, im positive space on the next flight, ask if she can put me on hers...56 seats available.

Her: i wont do anything unless you are listed on this flight. Double Yew tee eff... So I pull out my iphone to make it all happen, what a pain. She ignores me for the next ten minutes. Thank God for the red coat who actually understood we were in the passenger flying business.

Needless to say, she did not recieve one of the pearl bracelets that I give to good gate agents who actually understand their job.

Atlanta...I hate that place.

Fred Driver 05-06-2016 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2124072)
Atlanta! Sheesh, pfffew, dang!

Other day I show up at the gate 30 minutes before boarding in atl, im positive space on the next flight, ask if she can put me on hers...56 seats available.

Her: i wont do anything unless you are listed on this flight. Double Yew tee eff... So I pull out my iphone to make it all happen, what a pain. She ignores me for the next ten minutes. Thank God for the red coat who actually understood we were in the passenger flying business.

Needless to say, she did not recieve one of the pearl bracelets that I give to good gate agents who actually understand their job.

Atlanta...I hate that place.

Happen to me in DTW a few weeks ago. Gate Agent extremely rude to me with pax's standing around. I'm starting to think I need to call fatigue when I'm fatigue.


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