Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate it. I guess I have to decide if the family wedding and a long weekend cabin trip are worth another winter of commuting to reserve in NYC.
Hired in May 2015. Considering going from 85% on the NYC 7ER to 60-70% on either the DTW 73n or DTW 320. I have a buddy who got the 320 on the last bid in May and doesn't start training till September but I have a feeling that has a lot to do with the summer schedule and training could come much quicker this fall.
Hired in May 2015. Considering going from 85% on the NYC 7ER to 60-70% on either the DTW 73n or DTW 320. I have a buddy who got the 320 on the last bid in May and doesn't start training till September but I have a feeling that has a lot to do with the summer schedule and training could come much quicker this fall.
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Does the number above you include those currently in a seat lock and unable to switch platforms (they just have a standing preference in)?
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Bid what you want, want what you bid.
They would have to run a mock bid to provide any accurate info
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If I switched to a different category now and then a few years later decided to switch back, do I go through an abbreviated qualification course? How long can you be out of a category and still go through the short course if you come back?
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I believe they use a 2 year look-back. Less than 2 years, some form.of a short course. More than 2, you get the full-monty.
One of the top network guys at Delta (Joe...missed his last name) was in the JFK pilot lounge yesterday and gave a presentation.
Here are some of his points:
AIRCRAFT
- 747: there are 7 still flying; they retire Dec 2017. I'm not sure if that will be all 7 or if they'll be down to 1 or 2 by then.
- A359: service from DTW, beginning 3rd Qtr 2017.
- 767: oldest ones in the fleet will be retired, replaced by remaining 333 deliveries (we have 26 now, 5 more coming) and then the 33neo deliveries (25 from '19-'22).
- 757: Network says this jet fills a niche like no other airplane does. Boeing is looking at a 757 replacement aircraft because of this niche. If they build one, Delta wants it.
- A321: 5 now in service; 82 by 2019.
- 739: 60 of the 120 delivered
- MD88: retiring from 2017 - '21. When they come up for their H inspections, they will be "put down." His words...that got a chuckle. Replacing them with the deliveries of A321s, 739s, and CS-100s.
- 717: all 91 delivered
- CS-100: initial bases in LAX, SEA, and then JFK.
NETWORK:
- Delta plans to grow at DFW but, to answer a question from a Texas commuter, has no plans to put a pilot base there. Staying at Love Field and would actually like to get more gates there, pending court action between Dallas and Southwest.
- Growth at LHR enabled by Virgin Atlantic JV. Heathrow is the biggest European business hub.
- Growth in China enabled by China Eastern JV.
- Service to Cuba from JFK starts in December.
Here are some of his points:
AIRCRAFT
- 747: there are 7 still flying; they retire Dec 2017. I'm not sure if that will be all 7 or if they'll be down to 1 or 2 by then.
- A359: service from DTW, beginning 3rd Qtr 2017.
- 767: oldest ones in the fleet will be retired, replaced by remaining 333 deliveries (we have 26 now, 5 more coming) and then the 33neo deliveries (25 from '19-'22).
- 757: Network says this jet fills a niche like no other airplane does. Boeing is looking at a 757 replacement aircraft because of this niche. If they build one, Delta wants it.
- A321: 5 now in service; 82 by 2019.
- 739: 60 of the 120 delivered
- MD88: retiring from 2017 - '21. When they come up for their H inspections, they will be "put down." His words...that got a chuckle. Replacing them with the deliveries of A321s, 739s, and CS-100s.
- 717: all 91 delivered
- CS-100: initial bases in LAX, SEA, and then JFK.
NETWORK:
- Delta plans to grow at DFW but, to answer a question from a Texas commuter, has no plans to put a pilot base there. Staying at Love Field and would actually like to get more gates there, pending court action between Dallas and Southwest.
- Growth at LHR enabled by Virgin Atlantic JV. Heathrow is the biggest European business hub.
- Growth in China enabled by China Eastern JV.
- Service to Cuba from JFK starts in December.
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One of the top network guys at Delta (Joe...missed his last name) was in the JFK pilot lounge yesterday and gave a presentation.
Here are some of his points:
AIRCRAFT
- 747: there are 7 still flying; they retire Dec 2017. I'm not sure if that will be all 7 or if they'll be down to 1 or 2 by then.
- A359: service from DTW, beginning 3rd Qtr 2017.
- 767: oldest ones in the fleet will be retired, replaced by remaining 333 deliveries (we have 26 now, 5 more coming) and then the 33neo deliveries (25 from '19-'22).
- 757: Network says this jet fills a niche like no other airplane does. Boeing is looking at a 757 replacement aircraft because of this niche. If they build one, Delta wants it.
- A321: 5 now in service; 82 by 2019.
- 739: 60 of the 120 delivered
- MD88: retiring from 2017 - '21. When they come up for their H inspections, they will be "put down." His words...that got a chuckle. Replacing them with the deliveries of A321s, 739s, and CS-100s.
- 717: all 91 delivered
- CS-100: initial bases in LAX, SEA, and then JFK.
NETWORK:
- Delta plans to grow at DFW but, to answer a question from a Texas commuter, has no plans to put a pilot base there. Staying at Love Field and would actually like to get more gates there, pending court action between Dallas and Southwest.
- Growth at LHR enabled by Virgin Atlantic JV. Heathrow is the biggest European business hub.
- Growth in China enabled by China Eastern JV.
- Service to Cuba from JFK starts in December.
Here are some of his points:
AIRCRAFT
- 747: there are 7 still flying; they retire Dec 2017. I'm not sure if that will be all 7 or if they'll be down to 1 or 2 by then.
- A359: service from DTW, beginning 3rd Qtr 2017.
- 767: oldest ones in the fleet will be retired, replaced by remaining 333 deliveries (we have 26 now, 5 more coming) and then the 33neo deliveries (25 from '19-'22).
- 757: Network says this jet fills a niche like no other airplane does. Boeing is looking at a 757 replacement aircraft because of this niche. If they build one, Delta wants it.
- A321: 5 now in service; 82 by 2019.
- 739: 60 of the 120 delivered
- MD88: retiring from 2017 - '21. When they come up for their H inspections, they will be "put down." His words...that got a chuckle. Replacing them with the deliveries of A321s, 739s, and CS-100s.
- 717: all 91 delivered
- CS-100: initial bases in LAX, SEA, and then JFK.
NETWORK:
- Delta plans to grow at DFW but, to answer a question from a Texas commuter, has no plans to put a pilot base there. Staying at Love Field and would actually like to get more gates there, pending court action between Dallas and Southwest.
- Growth at LHR enabled by Virgin Atlantic JV. Heathrow is the biggest European business hub.
- Growth in China enabled by China Eastern JV.
- Service to Cuba from JFK starts in December.
Any word on a 737 Max/A320 NEO orders? It's concerning not to have a true 88 replacement...one that seats in the 140-160 seat range.
How many 767s will they retire? If they retire a lot, our widebody fleet will only get smaller. We have 74 767-300/300ERs...but we only have 25 A330-800s, 25 A350s, and 5 more of the 10 total of the A330 IGW. That's 60 new tails. We are also losing all of our 747s here in the next year and a half.
Don't vote on anything that limits widebody scope...our fleet is shrinking.
Thanks for the news...
Any word on a 737 Max/A320 NEO orders? It's concerning not to have a true 88 replacement...one that seats in the 140-160 seat range.
How many 767s will they retire? If they retire a lot, our widebody fleet will only get smaller. We have 74 767-300/300ERs...but we only have 25 A330-800s, 25 A350s, and 5 more of the 10 total of the A330 IGW. That's 60 new tails. We are also losing all of our 747s here in the next year and a half.
Don't vote on anything that limits widebody scope...our fleet is shrinking.
Any word on a 737 Max/A320 NEO orders? It's concerning not to have a true 88 replacement...one that seats in the 140-160 seat range.
How many 767s will they retire? If they retire a lot, our widebody fleet will only get smaller. We have 74 767-300/300ERs...but we only have 25 A330-800s, 25 A350s, and 5 more of the 10 total of the A330 IGW. That's 60 new tails. We are also losing all of our 747s here in the next year and a half.
Don't vote on anything that limits widebody scope...our fleet is shrinking.
The CS-100 order includes options for 50 more, which could be CS-300s; they are in the 130-160 range, depending on configuration.
I didn't hear a number for the 767s to be retired and didn't ask. Joe said "the oldest" 767s would be retired...so some, certainly not all. I don't know how our wide bodies on order overlap with the 767 retirements or what the net gain/loss for our wide body fleet will be.
As far as the MD88 replacement, there's no 1-for-1 160-seat replacement for now so the plan is for it to be a mix of the 737, 319/320/321, 717, and CS-100 taking that domestic load. Network is doing the math.
In the same way, the A359 is not seat-for-seat with the 747 but will nonetheless replace the 747 on its Pacific routes. The question then is: Will there be more flights to Asia on the 359 than we currently have on the 747 to make up the difference in seats? I suppose that's more math for Network.
Two different items there James. To give up WB Scope would be a huge mistake. If you want to push for pay banding then by all means contact your reps. It's not the Delta pilots or DALPAs fault that we only have a handful of super premium jets.
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