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Doug Masters 12-26-2016 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2269884)
Wanna good documentary to watch on netflix?

The Last Man on the Moon

Agreed...when men were men.

GogglesPisano 12-26-2016 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2269884)
Wanna good documentary to watch on netflix?

The Last Man on the Moon

Watched it on a flight to Europe. Outstanding.

Tee1Up 12-26-2016 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2267457)
You'll pardon all of us if we don't lose sleep reading your "lament." Out of curiosity I actually went on the PBS reserve spreadsheet calculator using your particulars. I don't know your category, but I even assumed the lowest ALV of 72 hours. Between your vacation, 3 days of CQ (at 4 hours a day, a 15 minute improvement thanks to our new contract), reserve days off, and required on call days, you will receive 87 hours of pay. You will owe the company ten days of duty for those 87 hours. Granted you had to use 12 days of vacation to get there, but you aren't exactly on the train to the gulag here.

Thanks for the research Herk and hopefully you can shed some light on this. I think you nailed the 72 hours of ALV, but my "wide" report only shows 51 hours of credit, hence the gripe. Am I missing something here? I was kind of amazed that with vacation and recurrent, I end up with only 51 hours of credit. New guy...so what am I missing?

FL370esq 12-26-2016 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tee1Up (Post 2269950)
Thanks for the research Herk and hopefully you can shed some light on this. I think you nailed the 72 hours of ALV, but my "wide" report only shows 51 hours of credit, hence the gripe. Am I missing something here? I was kind of amazed that with vacation and recurrent, I end up with only 51 hours of credit. New guy...so what am I missing?

Are you confusing pay with credit? Vacation and CQ give you pay but not credit. (Although vacation does count for "credit" towards the greenslip trigger, just not for bank deposit purposes). Add your vaycay and CQ time to your PBS credit and I think you will be at Herk's calculation.

Herkflyr 12-26-2016 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Tee1Up (Post 2269950)
Thanks for the research Herk and hopefully you can shed some light on this. I think you nailed the 72 hours of ALV, but my "wide" report only shows 51 hours of credit, hence the gripe. Am I missing something here? I was kind of amazed that with vacation and recurrent, I end up with only 51 hours of credit. New guy...so what am I missing?

You cannot look at the wide report to determine pay if you get a reserve line. The "credit" summary that you see accounts for your CQ and vacation, but doesn't include the remaining reserve guarantee that you would be entitled to (though it does show the number of on call days you owe the company.

For the same reason, if you received a full month reserve line that had no other vacation, CQ, etc. your "credit" on the wide report would be...zero. However you would still have a reserve guarantee per your particular category.

It gets a bit confusing I know. I invite you to review the wide report for you category and look at other guys who received reserve lines. Most importantly, get familiar with your time card, available in iCrew. For those with reserve lines, it is the only place that truly spells out all the ins and outs of your monthly pay, hours, reserve guarantee, and the like.

sailingfun 12-27-2016 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tee1Up (Post 2269950)
Thanks for the research Herk and hopefully you can shed some light on this. I think you nailed the 72 hours of ALV, but my "wide" report only shows 51 hours of credit, hence the gripe. Am I missing something here? I was kind of amazed that with vacation and recurrent, I end up with only 51 hours of credit. New guy...so what am I missing?

Vacation and training are pay no credit. Ditch the wide report and look at your time card.

Bucking Bar 12-27-2016 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2269414)
I banked a few hours once before a pay raise. Next month I used banked hours. Pretty sure banked hours were paid at the rate I banked them at. I am under the impression that the hours have a money value to them that we can't see. Just speaking from experience. I've read contract and it's not clear.

Perhaps the difference already included in a retro check?

forgot to bid 12-27-2016 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 2269928)
Agreed...when men were men.

I liked how it shows the old man doing farm work, climbing down that silo ladder backwards and in the background is the moon. He's been there. Just insane.

KnotSoFast 12-27-2016 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2269414)
I banked a few hours once before a pay raise. Next month I used banked hours. Pretty sure banked hours were paid at the rate I banked them at. I am under the impression that the hours have a money value to them that we can't see. Just speaking from experience. I've read contract and it's not clear.

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Incorrect.
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Bank hours are HOURS. That's why they are displayed as such on your TIME (not pay) card.

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When withdrawn, they are converted into PAY at your hourly rate at that instant.
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NERD 12-27-2016 09:00 AM

AE bets? Close of business Friday or earlier???


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