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Old 06-19-2017 | 08:11 PM
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I agree that it would be unfair to have to retroactively prove you were in place, but there are likely many situations where the company will have you dead to rights. What if the pilots in question were on SC until 0100, they were called at 2300 to fly, and the company has a record of them jump seating out of their assigned base on a 4 hour flight leaving at 2200? DAL doesn't seem like a 1 bad decision company, what if after a pilot missed an assignment the company went back and realized that for the past 10 years they've been cutting out of short call early without getting permission from CS. That would be indisputable evidence documenting systemic abuse of the system. I'm sure there are more situations similar to this one.
Old 06-19-2017 | 09:31 PM
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The company is not on a witch hunt. They are looking at pilots who have shown a pattern of being out of position or sicking out immediately after being called for a trip. They are not randomly auditing schedules.
Old 06-20-2017 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
I agree that it would be unfair to have to retroactively prove you were in place...
This goes back to my post yesterday in response to Gloopy's post. Despite Gloopy's concerns, I can't imagine the company is using that approach in any form or manner with regard to "SC-gate." I think the company sees a high $$$ (Int'l widebody) trip go uncovered after a SC assignment and then the audit begins to see if this was a "one-off" event or if there is a verifiable pattern of SC abuse.

I don't believe that the company pulls up each and every SC the "accused" has been assigned over, let's say, the past 36 months and says, "Okay Pilot X....prove to us you were promptly available on each and every one of these days." What I do believe is that the company did its audit and found several/numerous events like the scenario you gave (and, to a more extreme, like the one I posted yesterday) and presents that to the individual.

I guess it all boils down to.....if you are on SC, be on short call. If you are sick, call in sick. If your commute has fallen apart, call in honest/unable to commute. However, if you decide to game the system, remember the old adage - "Don't do the crime if you are't willing to do the time."
Old 06-20-2017 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
This goes back to my post yesterday in response to Gloopy's post. Despite Gloopy's concerns, I can't imagine the company is using that approach in any form or manner with regard to "SC-gate." I think the company sees a high $$$ (Int'l widebody) trip go uncovered after a SC assignment and then the audit begins to see if this was a "one-off" event or if there is a verifiable pattern of SC abuse.

I don't believe that the company pulls up each and every SC the "accused" has been assigned over, let's say, the past 36 months and says, "Okay Pilot X....prove to us you were promptly available on each and every one of these days." What I do believe is that the company did its audit and found several/numerous events like the scenario you gave (and, to a more extreme, like the one I posted yesterday) and presents that to the individual.

I guess it all boils down to.....if you are on SC, be on short call. If you are sick, call in sick. If your commute has fallen apart, call in honest/unable to commute. However, if you decide to game the system, remember the old adage - "Don't do the crime if you are't willing to do the time."
I was agreeing with you.
Old 06-20-2017 | 05:27 AM
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Old 06-20-2017 | 05:58 AM
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Flew one of these out of MCO had 71 kids on it last year. Cabin looked like a tornado had passed through it.
Old 06-20-2017 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
Does a PCS run ever just get skipped?

Swap with pot in and shows active and no denial reasons but the 17:00 run has come and gone and nothing.
They don't skip runs. The contract however only requires the run be not before 1700. With the weather meltdown in the NE it was probably run late. It's not unusual to see a run 30 to 40 minutes late when they are swamped.
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
I was agreeing with you.
And I was agreeing with you and your astute observation....😁
Old 06-20-2017 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
Flew one of these out of MCO had 71 kids on it last year. Cabin looked like a tornado had passed through it.
Yeah Ive only flown them a handful of times, including on OE. We dont seem them much in NYC. I wonder if they are planning to use them the way AA does on the transcons or if they prefer the mix of actual international aircraft like the 75/67 and 330 that is occasionally used.
Old 06-20-2017 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They don't skip runs. The contract however only requires the run be not before 1700. With the weather meltdown in the NE it was probably run late. It's not unusual to see a run 30 to 40 minutes late when they are swamped.
Well, it's 1015 Mecca time and it looks like the 0700 PCS is still running...so.....I guess it started after 0700.
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