It's unfortunate but it's a sandwich they made for themselves a long time ago. There are ZERO regional pilots anywhere that voted for scope relief. It's unfortunate what's happening but zero blame should be placed on regional pilots.

No, it’s not a sandwich they made a long time ago. It’s 99% a sandwich that came from the bankruptcy court.

Denny

Come on, your whole career is a choice. Pick an answer: Do you live in base or not? One makes you a commuter, one does not. That is a choice. There is nothing wrong with either choice.

Denny

Of course everything is a choice. Literally, everything. It is how that "decision" is made to sound by people who choose to condemn those who choose to commute, as if those who don't live in domicile should be punished for not doing so. Other than the fact that domiciles can open and close at a whim (just ask anyone from -insert City here-), it's never as easy as pick up and move to today's focus city domicile. This is especially true if you have kids and a close family support network or if your spouse has a successful career. This isn't the military. You don't just uproot your family just because you might save a few nights at home a month for zero extra compensation.

I didn’t bother reading after your first sentence......

Denny

Agreed...Even HE said It's a choice!:D

It’s also a choice to nonrev instead of buying a confirmed seat if you’re worried about getting bumped by an endeavor commuter. It works both ways.

Why on earth are there Endeavor pilots on this thread debating about flight benefits? Shut your damn pie holes and go about your business. There is no need or benefit to boast or to kick the bees nest.

Delta pilots and retirees...you won't even notice a difference. Endeavor is such a small group in comparison. Especially spread across the system.

That's not an excuse. There are plenty of ways to cut costs in negotiations than to sell scope. The older generation of mainline pilots (including many current retirees) decided to sell their scope instead of taking a bigger hit in their pay rates. They wanted to keep as much money for themselves as possible, and were too SHORT-SIGHTED to see the long term effects it would have on the industry.

Now they have to live with the consequences of that choice, as do we all.....But thanks to their choices they should have more money to enjoy in their retirement. Perhaps enough to buy a ticket when they go on holiday. Unfortunately the regional pilots that they created cannot afford to buy tickets every time they need to get to work.

If I had a dime...so tired of this silly argument. Lots of us mainline guys were furloughed while all of this happened, and much of it occurred because of bankruptcy and subpar contracts being forced on us rather than just caving. So while these regional jobs were being created, guys you are blaming for scope issues were laid off. But continue your online blame game of the mainline guys; it's refreshing and original.