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Old 09-10-2018 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Can you post a link or reference the name of the thread and page number? Thanks
If you go to the forums on airliners.net
Some guy does a post every week called OAG guide which shows filings airlines make for routes. It’s actually pretty cool to follow to keep yourself informed
Old 09-11-2018 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta2heavy
If you go to the forums on airliners.net

Some guy does a post every week called OAG guide which shows filings airlines make for routes. It’s actually pretty cool to follow to keep yourself informed

I’m familiar with that thread but of it gives no input as to why the changes are made. Members are left to theorize just like us pilots.
Old 09-11-2018 | 10:39 AM
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The union puts out excellent scope summaries. They are rarely posted here because they often conflict with what some posters want to project. A simple example would be all the posts on Aeromexico. I just flew with a pilot who assured me not only had we not added any Mexico flying but were reducing rapidly. He got that info from APC. Here is the most recent update from the union.

Our JV with Aeromιxico recently turned one year old. What has that first year looked like? There has been a tremendous increase in DAL-coded passengers flying on AM metal and a similar increase of AM- coded passengers on DAL aircraft. We asked ALPA National Economic & Financial Analysis to take a look at the growth in year one, and the results show an equitable distribution of the growth in the first year of the JV. By seats, seat-miles, frequencies and block hours, the Delta share of growth across the border was greater than 50%.
Old 09-11-2018 | 11:55 AM
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Feel free to post your source information too.

https://aeromexico.com/cms/sites/def...ll_Version.pdf

And from 7/6/2017, the jump was in the precedent year for scope.

International capacity jumps 17% at Aeromexico

• Aeromexico (OTCPK:GRPAF) announces revenue per kilometers increased 14.2% to 3.400B in June. International RPKs were up 17.0%, while domestic RPKs increased 8.5%.
• Capacity increased 14.6% during the month to 4.119B available seat kilometers.
• Passenger traffic was up 6.3% to 1.764M.
• June load factor -30 bps to 82.5%.
• YTD load factor +220 bps to 80.1%.
Old 09-11-2018 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Feel free to post your source information too.

https://aeromexico.com/cms/sites/def...ll_Version.pdf

And from 7/6/2017, the jump was in the precedent year for scope.

International capacity jumps 17% at Aeromexico

• Aeromexico (OTCPK:GRPAF) announces revenue per kilometers increased 14.2% to 3.400B in June. International RPKs were up 17.0%, while domestic RPKs increased 8.5%.
• Capacity increased 14.6% during the month to 4.119B available seat kilometers.
• Passenger traffic was up 6.3% to 1.764M.
• June load factor -30 bps to 82.5%.
• YTD load factor +220 bps to 80.1%.
You may be aware Delta made statements to the US Department of Justice when requesting anti-trust immunity providing for 50/50 growth above the 60/40 AM/DL baseline. Delta's performance has been in line with management's statements to the DOJ.

Spoke with our Scope Chairman and Captain Rep Elect a week ago on this topic and there was brief mention of the LATAM network in Jim Graham's crewroom brief today. All reports correlate with what Sailing quoted and is frankly, good news, for Delta pilots.

We are taking market from American Airlines.
Old 09-11-2018 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Feel free to post your source information too.

https://aeromexico.com/cms/sites/def...ll_Version.pdf

And from 7/6/2017, the jump was in the precedent year for scope.

International capacity jumps 17% at Aeromexico

• Aeromexico (OTCPK:GRPAF) announces revenue per kilometers increased 14.2% to 3.400B in June. International RPKs were up 17.0%, while domestic RPKs increased 8.5%.
• Capacity increased 14.6% during the month to 4.119B available seat kilometers.
• Passenger traffic was up 6.3% to 1.764M.
• June load factor -30 bps to 82.5%.
• YTD load factor +220 bps to 80.1%.
I don't see where that contradicts anything he said. Aeromexico having growth doesn't mean they had more through the JV than Delta. As much as I'd rather we fly everything from RJs up, acting like those numbers mean something they don't doesn't really accomplish anything.

Can you explain how your source demonstrates a contradiction?
Old 09-11-2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Feel free to post your source information too.

https://aeromexico.com/cms/sites/def...ll_Version.pdf

And from 7/6/2017, the jump was in the precedent year for scope.

International capacity jumps 17% at Aeromexico

• Aeromexico (OTCPK:GRPAF) announces revenue per kilometers increased 14.2% to 3.400B in June. International RPKs were up 17.0%, while domestic RPKs increased 8.5%.
• Capacity increased 14.6% during the month to 4.119B available seat kilometers.
• Passenger traffic was up 6.3% to 1.764M.
• June load factor -30 bps to 82.5%.
• YTD load factor +220 bps to 80.1%.
My source was the union newsletter on JV’s. It’s available on the union website dated 6/26.
Further info which is a bit dated but from March is block hours between us and Aeromexico. We are flying around 322,000 with AM at 140,000. The letter dated 6/26 also discusses the large increase in passengers on both airlines transborder routes. That provides additional domestic flying for Delta pilots via increased feed.
Keep in mind the numbers you post are all AM’s international flying not JV flying transborder.
Old 09-11-2018 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Feel free to post your source information too.

https://aeromexico.com/cms/sites/def...ll_Version.pdf

And from 7/6/2017, the jump was in the precedent year for scope.

International capacity jumps 17% at Aeromexico

• Aeromexico (OTCPK:GRPAF) announces revenue per kilometers increased 14.2% to 3.400B in June. International RPKs were up 17.0%, while domestic RPKs increased 8.5%.
• Capacity increased 14.6% during the month to 4.119B available seat kilometers.
• Passenger traffic was up 6.3% to 1.764M.
• June load factor -30 bps to 82.5%.
• YTD load factor +220 bps to 80.1%.
This has nothing to do with the topic. Aeromexico can have growth while their share of JV flying shrinks and vice versa.
Old 09-11-2018 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
This has nothing to do with the topic. Aeromexico can have growth while their share of JV flying shrinks and vice versa.
Our subsidiary grew 14% in a year that would set the balance for a scope comparison. That is not an accident. When has any airline not just Delta grown at that rate? The growth was in excess of demand and their IAs factor dropped considerably.
Old 09-12-2018 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Our subsidiary grew 14% in a year that would set the balance for a scope comparison. That is not an accident. When has any airline not just Delta grown at that rate? The growth was in excess of demand and their IAs factor dropped considerably.
In the early 2000 era AeroMexico averaged 60 aircraft in their fleet and 20 in a defunct subsidiary. Mexicana was the dominent airline. 15 years later they have 74 aircraft and Mexicana is gone. If American and United went away in 2010 how many aircraft do you think Delta would have today? 14% international growth is 3 airframes for AeroMexico.
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