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notEnuf 09-12-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2672886)
Ah, now I see your point. I think it's a little conspiracy theory-esque and pilot centric, but MAYBE you're right.

It’s not conspiracy theory, it’s actually a great business decision and that’s the plan. Take control of more capacity without adding any. It’s much easier to limit Delta’s growth than the subsidiary which has to answer to the other half of their shareholders.

I actually admire the efficiency of the future business plan but as a pilot group we have to realize the consequences and not make excuses or rationalize this as beneficial to the unionized pilots. We will eventually be only a fraction of the pilots flying for the Delta brand. Hello whipsaw. It’s already happened at the regional level. Don’t think it can’t happen here.

GogglesPisano 09-12-2018 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2672984)
Yes, but that date is a moving target until you are in class. My FEB training for a MAR conversion (2016 MOAB) was finally put on my schedule in MAY, then JUN and actually happened in JUL/AUG.

Any pay protection?

sailingfun 09-12-2018 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2673002)
It’s not conspiracy theory, it’s actually a great business decision and that’s the plan. Take control of more capacity without adding any. It’s much easier to limit Delta’s growth than the subsidiary which has to answer to the other half of their shareholders.

I actually admire the efficiency of the future business plan but as a pilot group we have to realize the consequences and not make excuses or rationalize this as beneficial to the unionized pilots. We will eventually be only a fraction of the pilots flying for the Delta brand. Hello whipsaw. It’s already happened at the regional level. Don’t think it can’t happen here.

Haven’t we taken back a large amount of regional flying the last 5 years? How can you state we are only a fraction of the domestic flying?

Baradium 09-12-2018 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2673049)
Haven’t we taken back a large amount of regional flying the last 5 years? How can you state we are only a fraction of the domestic flying?

I think he's talking about regionals being whipsawed against each other and saying that we could be whipsawed against AM.

GogglesPisano 09-14-2018 02:26 PM

I was passed over for a GS. Does sick time count towards FAR flight time for the purposes of GS legality? Seem to remember that change in the last contract.

GuardPolice 09-14-2018 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2674311)
I was passed over for a GS. Does sick time count towards FAR flight time for the purposes of GS legality? Seem to remember that change in the last contract.


Yep, sick trips count in your FAR calculations for GS and WS for the first time around the list. After one time through the fallout list you’re back to normal.

Denny Crane 09-14-2018 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2674311)
I was passed over for a GS. Does sick time count towards FAR flight time for the purposes of GS legality? Seem to remember that change in the last contract.

If you call in sick during a month you try to GS, you go to the bottom of the list for GS. You will get your first before someone gets their second.

Denny

TED74 09-14-2018 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2674370)
If you call in sick during a month you try to GS, you go to the bottom of the list for GS. You will get your first before someone gets their second.

Denny

I think this is the bad rumor running around and it's even perpetuated by some schedulers.

If you call in sick, and the trip you would otherwise have flown WOULD HAVE made you ineligible or illegal for a GS, you go behind the others. It's not for the whole month. It doesn't penalize you for sicking out, it just doesn't allow you to use sick to enhance access to GS flying.

GogglesPisano 09-14-2018 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by GuardPolice (Post 2674331)
Yep, sick trips count in your FAR calculations for GS and WS for the first time around the list. After one time through the fallout list you’re back to normal.

Thanks, GuardPolice.

Scoop 09-15-2018 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2674370)
If you call in sick during a month you try to GS, you go to the bottom of the list for GS. You will get your first before someone gets their second.

Denny




Denny,


Not quite correct. When the HAL 9000 checks to see if you are legal to fly a Greenslip it will treat the sickout as if you flied the trip.


If you could have flew the sicked out trip and the GS - you will still get the GS.


If you would have flew the sicked out tip and it would have made you ineligible for the GS - you go to the back off the list for that particular GS - not the whole month. You can still get it if no one else is legal for it.



Now for the rest of the month the HAL 9000 will assume that you flew the sicked out trip trip when it checks for legality of Greenslips.




In my opinion this is a positive. A few guys were using tactical sick calls to get a greesnlip that should have gone to another Delta Pilot.


This has zero effect on the number of GS's that go out but prevents a few contract Ninjas from hosing their fellow Pilots.


Scoop


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