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Originally Posted by Han Solo
(Post 2568823)
I got them back for you. This month I had 3 days on, X day, 3 days on. They gave me a 3 day trip and then assigned 30 hours rest on my XX day, so I moved a day of RES from later in the month and put it where they'd already assigned rest :). It's the small victories...
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
(Post 2569241)
How did you move a RES day to an X day that had already been assigned a 30-hour rest? I don't think I'm picking up what you're putting down. :confused:
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TA1 roadshow was an absolute rainbow blowing sales job. Unfortunately the Neville Chamberlain Appeasement Society won't take ownership. Good riddance. . .
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Anyone have any gouge on non revving out of FCO (Rome). My ID travel is pretty basic.
Specifically do they upgrade based on who gets there first and not our traditional way, and do S2s do nothing for upgrades. Thanks! |
Un-freaking-believable.
Observations by Scoop, Raging White, and everyone else who was on property at the time might not be verifiable by digging through the annals of ALPA communiques, but they are not merely interpretations. While TA1 was sent to us as a pilot group without recommendation, it was sold hard. Thankfully the pilot group did not do what we were told. And it is a nice deflection to say we have no faith in our pilot group. I have plenty of faith in the pilot group, just as I have plenty of faith in the American people. Sweving across lanes here, but too often the responsibility of representation leads to illusions of grandeur or sets in motion personal agendas. Too often the proverbial onion must be peeled back very far to learn one’s true intent, but it is far easier to see evidence of rot before actually finding it. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 2568627)
Yes, I was in the room.
Background:
The vote was to send the TA to the pilots without MEC recommendation. That is a matter of record and anyone who is interested should be able to get a copy of the resolution from our MEC Secretary. One problem was that when the Admin and some Reps confronted the miscommunications (& outright lies) they were perceived as defending the TA when in reality they were just trying to ensure the pilots truly understood what the deal really was. I constantly got caught up in trying to explain 1 E. 9. and 1 P. 4. and being called a "liar" although quoting directly from the TA. In retrospect, the less said, the better. John Malone's Admin mostly remained off Social Media and was better for it. History clearly indicates better was available by waiting. United did a +1 on our non existent rejected TA and we managed to +1 them while improving scope and leaving profit sharing alone. Some parts of the rejected TA were actually better than C15, but the retention of profit sharing more than made up for those changes. - sorry about the edits, the battery in the keyboard is dead - |
Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2569607)
Anyone have any gouge on non revving out of FCO (Rome). My ID travel is pretty basic.
Specifically do they upgrade based on who gets there first and not our traditional way, and do S2s do nothing for upgrades. Thanks! Easier to look the thread over than reiterate all I learned there. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2556469)
True, but as long as the discussion stays civil it is providing a lot of information and many Pilots can learn a thing or two by following along.
Some may say it is providing more disinformation than information and I will admit that most threads include opinions and disinformation posted as facts. Each reader can digest what they read and decide what is credible and what is not. If curious or skeptical (skepticism is good) Forum members can conduct further research and come up with their own opinions. Scoop AR-15's with tons of ammo! Bring on the zombies! |
So here-in lies the rub with "revisionist' history. Some (a verrry small minority) come on here an make preposterous summations of past events. If you say that at the road shows ALL information was a hard sell, I can't refute that(however I find it hard to believe ALL info was a positive spin). I did interact with "black shirts" and the interactions I participated in and observed could be characterized as educational. I couldn't even get them editorialize/ hypothesize, they only wanted to address explanations of sections.
Here are some loose facts. Less than 10% of the pilots attended road shows. In road shows I have attended they typically start out with the vast majority of info flow being an explanation of all sections. Then they open it up for discussion/spear throwing. The vast majority of pilots get their info(if the even bother at all) by reading council news letters. I did read ALL the councils news letters. In my opinion any editorializing was fairly neutral( as has been posted here). So when I read things like the following highlighted post I do agree that someone is trying to revise history. The question is who? And why? ( the agenda seems to be...ALPA - BAD, DALPA - BAD, MEC - BAD. All of these ALPA scoundrels are mgt shills trying to sell their fellow pilots down the river and are rotten bastards to the core) At least that is what the message seems to be to me and what you are selling I know your rebuttal is going to be...."Trust but verify....or "learn from our "mistakes"...or something similar. I however have much greater confidence in our fellow pilots. They aren't 8 year olds that need counseling and education on such basic principals.Do I really need to insult their intelligence by trying to sell such platitudes? I don't believe so, if find it insulting
Originally Posted by buckleyboy
(Post 2569634)
Un-freaking-believable.
Observations by Scoop, Raging White, and everyone else who was on property at the time might not be verifiable by digging through the annals of ALPA communiques, but they are not merely interpretations. While TA1 was sent to us as a pilot group without recommendation, it was sold hard. Thankfully the pilot group did not do what we were told. |
Originally Posted by Han Solo
(Post 2569697)
I recently did FCO with the family, the thread is here: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/d...-alitalia.html
Easier to look the thread over than reiterate all I learned there. |
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