Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 2753515)

You could post the actual numbers for a more detailed answer. As Sailing posted, it should work....



However, a wrinkle is that the Super Bowl is one of the "APD Holidays"--they can deny a PD regardless of coverage. From what you describe, it probably won't work--because on those "holiday" periods, you have to get a day-by-day coverage that is worse (not the same) to make the swap. On non-holiday periods, there appears to be an exception (experience, I cannot point to a reference) for "same day" swaps; but not during the "holiday"--you would have to have a 3-day or greater trip to "cover" the one you have, even though only the single day is showing negative....



You could try: trading for that 1-day AND something that covers the other days (then drop the second trip you don't want). Trading for that 1-day AND something with a negative number somewhere (assumes you either want that 2nd trip or are willing to roll the dice that it will allow you to drop it down the road). Swap board?

Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 2753534)

Actually, the language in PWA 23 that deals with the holidays, i.e. super bowl in this case, only refers to APD's being denied if it falls on a holiday. The section above it that deals with PD's does not mention the holiday thing. PWA 23.I.10 vs PWA 23.I.9. I successfully did a PD for a 4 day that spanned super bowl sunday just a few days ago. But when I did it, the reserve coverage on SB Sunday was above the required #. I think his PD should work.

Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 2753540)

23.V.5.b. is what you want to look at, not 23.I. And, it's not "just" on the holiday, it's 2 days before through 1 day after--it's any day(s) of the trip during those days affects the whole trip (i.e., the whole trip is treated as a "holiday" trip).


Your success with all positive days is not the same situation.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2753416)

We have no facts that this even happened. There’s the problem. The final day update for the MEC meeting is missing and no information has been disseminated. That aside, I can guarantee there was alcohol available at the suite. I can also guarantee that private setting as opposed to a public lounge or bar contributed to the situation. I’m through paying for a booze lounge were grown adults act like children and then try to shield their actions from scrutiny.

Resolution upcoming. I’ll post when I finish it for others to copy or use. Any feedback on the language etc. will be welcomed.

Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 2753544)

I understand that, but as we were talking about APD holiday's, 23.I.10 says that the only drop that may be denied regardless of reserve coverage if it falls on a holiday, is a APD. A personal drop is not affected by the holiday restriction, only an authorized personal drop. His PD success/failure on Sunday will be a function of the formula you referred to, not due to APD holidays, since it's not an APD. Thats my only point.

Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 2753597)

I see where we disconnected. It was a typo re the APD vs. PD. Per the OP, the day of his trip is negative, so a PD won't work, anyway. I'll edit my post to correct PD >> APD. Sorry for the confusion. [EDIT: Apparently, I won't edit my post, since there's now a 45 minute limit to that??]



Meanwhile, the OP's question was about SWP, which is affected by the language in 23.V.5.b.--and which probably won't work, because of the APD Holiday language.

Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2753718)

SWP doesn't have anything to do with APDs, if the day is green the day is green. In his case he wasn't adding a duty period on the day that wasn't green, he was swapping out duty periods and dropping them on green days. That's all the system looks at.

Originally Posted by RightSide (Post 2753727)

That’s what I was trying to tell scheduling, but they said sorry it won’t work. Good thing I didn’t listen and tried anyway.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2753416)

We have no facts that this even happened.