Perspective is important because it provides context to assumptions that are often wrong. As a example you often hear the union does nothing for the junior people and is controlled by senior pilots. The reality is that over the last 30 years the two most improved sections of the contract are reserve and junior pilot pay.

 

A history lesson for perspective combined with possible solutions for improvements sounds like a pretty reasonable approach.

"Matches and gasoline talk" prior to the exchange of openers sounds a bit......rash?....imprudent?....illogical?

 

No, absolutely if you are new, and have valid complaints, air them! This contract is a constantly evolving thing, and we can and should ai for improvements.

All I care about is what works. What works is *most* of the time working with the company, getting improvements whenever you can, while still being willing to fight a strong fight when warranted.

Sometimes there are significant improvements via Section 6 (TA 2), sometimes there are failures (TA 1) and sometimes there are lots of small improvements, none earth-shattering on their own, but compounded on top of each other result in a significantly improved contract (several side letters, FAR 117 agreement etc).

What this current MEC seems hell bent to do is appear tough, taking marching orders from the social media naysayers and chit chat crowd...while accomplishing very little. If that worked, I'd be on board more than I am. However it doesn't work, thus my skepticism.

However they are our union leadership, good or bad. I wish them well and still think that we can secure another very good contract. I just think it will take far more time than it should.

 

Sage advice, indeed!

 

A question for you. Do you think our current MEC compared to the one that sent TA2 to us has more or less of the "Reps" taking their marching orders from social media naysayers/CC crowd?

And I'll be upfront with this jab.......At this point, I'd rather them take the stance they are taking than be like previous "Reps" who couldn't get their noses out of managements collective (you think of a three letter word.)

Denny

Denny

 

I'm happy to "pay" for new hire hotels with a quid pro quo, although I accept I'm probably in a (growing?) minority. It's the right thing to do for the newbies and I'd like to leave things better than I found them. Of course the company should just do it, but they haven't. Let them show their hand what we have to pay to get our newest and lowest-paid union brethren compensated like almost any other career on earth (not to mention like most other carriers I know), by the most profitable carrier around. Let it be known how management nickel and dimes such things; it'll offset the false narrative that the company takes care of their "family" and blunt the sting a newbie gets the first time his CPO experience isn't what was advertised during indoctrination.

 

100% agree.

 

Seconded......

 

Thirded. We make them shell out a good chunk of change for a place when they probably can’t spare much then evade around Virginia Ave looking food at all hours. It’s a ****ing contest between management and ALPA I’m sure.

 

Yep, make it so. It seems we have plenty of buildings/land around campus never understood why we can't just create our own hotel/suites for training.