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07-09-2019 | 08:47 AM

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Trip7

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Originally Posted by TED74

... and if you aren't senior and can't get senior, too bad / so sad. 18% more sick leave use will just get us back to baseline.

Unless you are very new, you can get senior somewhere.

07-09-2019 | 08:49 AM

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Where is this data posted? I'd like to look at it.

http://www.alpa.org/dal/Committees/Scheduling

You can find the reports thru that link after you log in

07-09-2019 | 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip7

Unless you are very new, you can get senior somewhere.

Sure, somewhere. So someone is new or newish or a few years on property and they have lived and started a family in Minneapolis or Seattle or Atlanta or Detroit. Have these folks had many opportunities to get senior? How are we defining senior? Would being senior in NYC fill your requirements for having QOL if you had to commute there from your distant home?

07-09-2019 | 09:39 AM

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Hopefully, Delta hasn't hired any pilots that don't understand what a "seniority system" is and where they are in that system when hired.

Maybe ALPA needs to change into a democratic socialist system......that would be "fairer" for all ...RIGHT?

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07-09-2019 | 10:00 AM

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Hopefully, Delta hasn't hired any pilots that don't understand what a seniority system is and where they are in that system when hired.

Maybe ALPA needs to change into a democratic socialist system......that would be "fairer" for all ...RIGHT?

Well Buck.....if the number 1 guy system wide lives in CVG and has a family there is he senior?

Gosh, these are difficult questions.....,.almost as tough as trying to define what "out of seniority" means!

07-09-2019 | 10:05 AM

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Its a lot difficult to understand complaints in this unprecedented airline pilot reality.

07-09-2019 | 10:07 AM

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Milk Man

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Originally Posted by Trip7

That's what alot of people have been asking for. They want to work the max during their trips to maximize time off. Not my cup of tea and something to look out for as an unintended consequence of asking for MDG

I dont mind sometimes having very productive trips but also not when the LCW gets up to 91:30 hrs. Sometimes I want a nice layover and relax too.

07-09-2019 | 10:26 AM

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Its a lot difficult to understand complaints in this unprecedented airline pilot reality.

Why? Should folks not try to maximize these unprecedented times in pilots' favor, if some portion of pilots say they want more non-monetary QOL? If my business partner and I have unprecedented year and quadruple our income, and he takes 90% off the gains and I take 10%, do I have grounds to complain?

It's hard to even comprehend how much money Delta is making, just as much (or more) on the backs of pilots hired in the last 5 years as 25. I don't begrudge anyone at any level seeking ways to channel those gains into their quality of life in whatever means they find appropriate.

07-09-2019 | 10:31 AM

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Hopefully, Delta hasn't hired any pilots that don't understand what a "seniority system" is and where they are in that system when hired.

There is no law of nature that the bottom 10% of any seniority list must have crappy qol. That may be historic precedent, but it isn't binding.

07-09-2019 | 10:34 AM

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I dont mind sometimes having very productive trips but also not when the LCW gets up to 91:30 hrs. Sometimes I want a nice layover and relax too.

I concur. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I also happen to think that every member of our most-profitable-pilot-list-in-airline-history could have some ways to avoid 91:30 too... even if they've only been on property 12 months.