Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-21-2019 | 03:48 PM
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Also, their airline runs on people picking up open time. Reserves fly at or above guarantee regularly - they are more like unscheduled line holders than reserves. Also, regular pilots are rerouted often - it pays very well - but it seems to happen a lot from what I see from my friends.
Other contracts look nice when you cherry-pick parts, but each one has trade-offs that we don't see.
09-21-2019 | 04:06 PM
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Yeah, but SWA pilots can't drop trips into open time. The only way to get rid of a trip is trade it with someone else.
Also, their airline runs on people picking up open time. Reserves fly at or above guarantee regularly - they are more like unscheduled line holders than reserves. Also, regular pilots are rerouted often - it pays very well - but it seems to happen a lot from what I see from my friends.
Other contracts look nice when you cherry-pick parts, but each one has trade-offs that we don't see.
Also, their airline runs on people picking up open time. Reserves fly at or above guarantee regularly - they are more like unscheduled line holders than reserves. Also, regular pilots are rerouted often - it pays very well - but it seems to happen a lot from what I see from my friends.
Other contracts look nice when you cherry-pick parts, but each one has trade-offs that we don't see.
09-21-2019 | 05:35 PM
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The tradeoff is swa reserves get 15 off and lineholders are 17 and more days off. Yeah you have to work more, and you get half the month or more off for your troubles, everyone. I get it delta guys like the schedules as is, but if its a vote, I'd take more work and more days off.
09-21-2019 | 05:52 PM
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I know. It just seems like there's a way I fly a little more and I get home more. I aint saying we carbon copy swa contract, but god almighty do we need MORE 26 hour overnights? Good God. Let's just get the ****ing work done and go home.
09-21-2019 | 06:12 PM
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I bid for 24+... maybe I’m weird. Normally it’s a -grand,Ville,falls,boro.... but it’s different. See a city for a day, good workout, a local restaurant, great nights sleep... BUT, it’s normally a trip with a better credit:block ratio by a good bit. You can knock out the “administrative” to do list, without chores. Typically 1-2 a month with a 30+ at home for another trip. Makes the month pretty slick until the double DH RR. Sure, I’d love a min day, but everyone can bid on what they want. Ironically, my home base layovers tend to go senior to me for trips mid week, so it’s not just me who likes them where I live.
09-21-2019 | 06:24 PM
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So yes, we need more 26-30hrs overnights. More productivity means more legs, longer duty periods, posible extensions, less time in the overnights.
24+ hr overnights = more commutable trips, fly 15-18hrs in 5 days and get payed 26. This summer, most of my rotations were equal on credit/block time. It sucks and I’m still burned from the summer flying. My monthly lines were 17 days off and the amount of reroute and shenanigans were over the line.
I think you should change the way you bid, leave those overnights to the people that really appreciate them.
09-21-2019 | 06:26 PM
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Leave your category and go to NY 320 or 737. I’m sure you’ll appreciate your 26hr layovers.
So yes, we need more 26-30hrs overnights. More productivity means more legs, longer duty periods, posible extensions, less time in the overnights.
24+ hr overnights = more commutable trips, fly 15-18hrs in 5 days and get payed 26. This summer, most of my rotations were equal on credit/block time. It sucks and I’m still burned from the summer flying. My monthly lines were 17 days off and the amount of reroute and shenanigans were over the line.
I think you should change the way you bid, leave those overnights to the people that really appreciate them.
So yes, we need more 26-30hrs overnights. More productivity means more legs, longer duty periods, posible extensions, less time in the overnights.
24+ hr overnights = more commutable trips, fly 15-18hrs in 5 days and get payed 26. This summer, most of my rotations were equal on credit/block time. It sucks and I’m still burned from the summer flying. My monthly lines were 17 days off and the amount of reroute and shenanigans were over the line.
I think you should change the way you bid, leave those overnights to the people that really appreciate them.
09-21-2019 | 06:26 PM
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I bid for 24+... maybe I’m weird. Normally it’s a -grand,Ville,falls,boro.... but it’s different. See a city for a day, good workout, a local restaurant, great nights sleep... BUT, it’s normally a trip with a better credit:block ratio by a good bit. You can knock out the “administrative” to do list, without chores. Typically 1-2 a month with a 30+ at home for another trip. Makes the month pretty slick until the double DH RR. Sure, I’d love a min day, but everyone can bid on what they want. Ironically, my home base layovers tend to go senior to me for trips mid week, so it’s not just me who likes them where I live.
09-21-2019 | 09:03 PM
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Agreed. I love this career not only for the flying but also for long layovers in a variety of cities. I still miss the absolutely wonderful trips I had on the 737 in NYC. Obviously different strokes for different folks but flying 7+ hour days and short overnights to get more days off at home is not my idea of fun.
09-21-2019 | 09:31 PM
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