Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-22-2019, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Honest question....So then what has changed to make trip quality/construction so poor on the narrowbody fleets? This is as bad as its has ever been. And it started long before the summer redline program.
09-22-2019, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Think of it like this: an optimized run is done with absolute minimum cost/credit. Then planners use a credit “budget” allocated by their managers, to improve the bid package for pilot preference. Those “budgets” have been dramatically cut in the last 24 months or so.
Side effect of that: the PWA provision that requires the first legal deadhead forces messed up redeye+deadhead trips when credit can’t be spent to avoid them. This stuff needs to be fixed at the contract level
Side effect of that: the PWA provision that requires the first legal deadhead forces messed up redeye+deadhead trips when credit can’t be spent to avoid them. This stuff needs to be fixed at the contract level
09-22-2019, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
Just read this months planning/staffing newsletter. They are actively looking to drive credit as low as possible in the name of profit and productivity. Time to put to teeth in our contract and take back our QOL from the 4th floor!
09-22-2019, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They have had the optimizer for at least 10 years.
09-22-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Okay but they just turned it on recently.
09-22-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Disagree. It should go before GSWC.
Originally Posted by TED74
The folks I know who want to fly green slips do so to make a lot of money. You often hear "everyone would drop their whole schedule", but doing this a couple times without fruitful trips to boost income beyond the top of the LCW would end that quickly. There's only so much to drop, and to pick up. And if "everyone" can do it (with minimum reserves met), "everyone" is available to pick them up... so you wait in line for all those folks to get their 1st before you get your second.
My category rarely has anything desirable (if anything) in open time. Even if I couldn't drop my stuff, it sure would be nice to at least swap with the pot and at least improve my initial award.
I don't think behavior would change much in the end, but every time you flew premium (without the trigger), you'd know it was for 100% premium pay.
My category rarely has anything desirable (if anything) in open time. Even if I couldn't drop my stuff, it sure would be nice to at least swap with the pot and at least improve my initial award.
I don't think behavior would change much in the end, but every time you flew premium (without the trigger), you'd know it was for 100% premium pay.
This is why I think the priority needs to be appropriately low to reduce the incentive to drop with that intention.
09-22-2019, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Okay but they just turned it on recently.
09-22-2019, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
They’ve used it for many years. The management conditions placed upon planners have changed.
09-22-2019, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Which conditions? Pilot pushing. Pad their pockets before they bail. Stock buybacks. You get the point. Most guys i fly with and talk to see it clearly.
09-22-2019, 02:34 PM
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Anybody at ATL base Meeting?
Did anybody attend Friday’s Atlanta base meeting. I saw Jim Graham was going to be there. Any tidbits from what he might’ve said?
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