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Hawaii50 05-05-2020 11:24 AM

Wouldn't this be a good time for the company to diversify its portfolio? I know they probably don't want to layout the cash now but what would be the cost versus payback on making some of the 757s and 767s cargo aircraft instead of sending them to be beer cans? We have the aircraft, crews and maintenance. We've worked with these aircraft for years and cargo seems to be a never ending need. I know, don't say it. Somehow there is plenty of money in cargo for operators like Atlas etc. The pax side can grow through new aircraft when demand comes back.

captkdobbs 05-05-2020 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 3049599)
Wouldn't this be a good time for the company to diversify its portfolio? I know they probably don't want to layout the cash now but what would be the cost versus payback on making some of the 757s and 767s cargo aircraft instead of sending them to be beer cans? We have the aircraft, crews and maintenance. We've worked with these aircraft for years and cargo seems to be a never ending need. I know, don't say it. Somehow there is plenty of money in cargo for operators like Atlas etc. The pax side can grow through new aircraft when demand comes back.

Sun Country is staffing Amazon 737 starting in June or July. I like this idea.

gloopy 05-05-2020 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by captkdobbs (Post 3049639)
Sun Country is staffing Amazon 737 starting in June or July. I like this idea.

There's no money in revenue.

The Localizer 05-05-2020 08:14 PM

Short term we are gonna go through some tough times but I am starting to believe that we truly have been built better than other airlines to withstand this and I think a year from now going into summer 2021 we are gonna he full steam ahead

sailingfun 05-06-2020 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 3049599)
Wouldn't this be a good time for the company to diversify its portfolio? I know they probably don't want to layout the cash now but what would be the cost versus payback on making some of the 757s and 767s cargo aircraft instead of sending them to be beer cans? We have the aircraft, crews and maintenance. We've worked with these aircraft for years and cargo seems to be a never ending need. I know, don't say it. Somehow there is plenty of money in cargo for operators like Atlas etc. The pax side can grow through new aircraft when demand comes back.

Half the worlds cargo capacity was lost in the last 60 days. Cargo yields have soared. When the passenger flights resume the cargo yields will drop like a stone. In other words it’s a horrible time to spends millions per airframe to convert them to freighters.

Jaww 05-06-2020 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3049996)
Half the worlds cargo capacity was lost in the last 60 days. Cargo yields have soared. When the passenger flights resume the cargo yields will drop like a stone. In other words it’s a horrible time to spends millions per airframe to convert them to freighters.

Makes sense. Devil’s Advocate argument now. Wouldn’t now be the exact time to spin up logistically to capture the market and gain market share? Get ahead of the wait and see leaders. It’s always easier to do nothing.

TED74 05-06-2020 05:26 AM

It seems like having a handful of converted jets would be a good hedge. Full disclosure, I'm a pilot.

Denny Crane 05-06-2020 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3049523)
As an FYI follow up to. this post.

The answer is YES I get the extra 4 hours of pay! I emailed the Dalpa Training Committee and, after a little back and forth, the upshot is both myself and my Seattle based FO got the extra 4 hours of pay added to our time cards today. Thanks to JC on the Training Committee! :)

Denny

Well seems I have to backpedal on this answer. I just got an email today saying the company is now denying the 4 hours because the sim was for re-establishing recency and not maintaining recency......at least that’s what I got from it.

Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me...

Denny

RunFast 05-06-2020 08:45 AM

I was told no....
 

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3049523)
As an FYI follow up to. this post.

The answer is YES I get the extra 4 hours of pay! I emailed the Dalpa Training Committee and, after a little back and forth, the upshot is both myself and my Seattle based FO got the extra 4 hours of pay added to our time cards today. Thanks to JC on the Training Committee! :)

Denny

Just got done emailing said committee, no dice for me despite exact circumstances.

RunFast 05-06-2020 08:51 AM

On the upside....
 

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3050061)
Well seems I have to backpedal on this answer. I just got an email today saying the company is now denying the 4 hours because the sim was for re-establishing recency and not maintaining recency......at least that’s what I got from it.

Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me...

Denny

The training committee is looking into it since so many of us have been affected by this Scheduling/training/PWA snag.


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