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Abouttime2fish 09-16-2020 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 3129648)
well, there is probably only room for the 600 or so Names that they are cheating out of one months pay....

well...getting closer to that elusive 200 k number of posts, then I think that’ll be the end of the thread, much like the end of the internet....takes too long to load.

You need a new phone, computer, or tablet...my phone loads it no problem.

It could never go 500,000 could it????

AirBob 09-16-2020 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish (Post 3129867)
You need a new phone, computer, or tablet...my phone loads it no problem.

It could never go 500,000 could it????

You know..."To him that will, wais are not wanting." - George Herbert

Though my device might combust trying.

Gone Flying 09-19-2020 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 3129648)
well, there is probably only room for the 600 or so Names that they are cheating out of one months pay....

well...getting closer to that elusive 200 k number of posts, then I think that’ll be the end of the thread, much like the end of the internet....takes too long to load.

it was only 275 or so who were losing a months pay (now 220 less) 600 were getting extra furlough pay b/c FM. (Everyone with less than 1 year gets 1 month Instead of 1/2 month)

Gunfighter 09-19-2020 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3131821)
it was only 275 or so who were losing a months pay (now 220 less) 600 were getting extra furlough pay b/c FM. (Everyone with less than 1 year gets 1 month Instead of 1/2 month)

I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.

Gone Flying 09-19-2020 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3131867)
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.

I completely agree, the number of pilots affected was just off. FM has nothing to do with furlough pay and everything to do with scope. hopefully ALPA fights this, and I really hope they can win it.

side note if the 220 end up not getting furloughed then that only leaves 1 class shorted furlough pay, showing this was never about the pay aspect of it.

notEnuf 09-19-2020 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3131867)
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.

yupppppppp

WhiskeyDelta 09-19-2020 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3131867)
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.


When does FM end? By what time, block hour or other metric does it automatically stop? There’s nothing in the PWA as far as I can tell that says once it’s declared that it can remain forever...or that it can’t.

Denny Crane 09-19-2020 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 3131876)
When does FM end? By what time, block hour or other metric does it automatically stop? There’s nothing in the PWA as far as I can tell that says once it’s declared that it can remain forever...or that it can’t.

In the past that has been determined by an arbitrator/mediator in his/her grievance decision.

Denny

WhiskeyDelta 09-19-2020 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3131929)
In the past that has been determined by an arbitrator/mediator in his/her grievance decision.

Denny


So it’s up to ALPA to decide when they think it should end and file a grievance?

I hope that it’s already been filed.

sailingfun 09-19-2020 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 3131936)
So it’s up to ALPA to decide when they think it should end and file a grievance?

I hope that it’s already been filed.

You should hope it’s not been filed because we will lose. We need to file when we have a reasonable chance of winning and the basis for a FM claim is no longer valid.


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