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Old 11-22-2020 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy
Seems to be the intuitive answer but what in the contract prevents a pilot from exercising their contractual rights?
The fact that you are unqualified prevents you from being awarded a gs. I'm not gonna look it up because, as you say, it's intuitive.

If you really want to pursue it, call the scheduling committee. Bet you get the same answer.

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Old 11-22-2020 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
The fact that you are unqualified prevents you from being awarded a gs. I'm not gonna look it up because, as you say, it's intuitive.

If you really want to pursue it, call the scheduling committee. Bet you get the same answer.

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Being NQ / Not legal isn’t stopping Crew Scheds from assigning SC to said NQ folks.
Old 11-23-2020 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Being NQ / Not legal isn’t stopping Crew Scheds from assigning SC to said NQ folks.
You never know when someone is gonna bang-in sick for their recency sim. Gotta keep the machine moving. 😁
Old 11-23-2020 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Being NQ / Not legal isn’t stopping Crew Scheds from assigning SC to said NQ folks.
I’ve never seen that but we are talking about assigning/flying a trip not about short call assignment. If this indeed happened it’s a phantom short call assignment and is strictly based on numbers to fill slots of short call. I have been assigned short call when there is absolutely no way I could be used. Can said short call pilot be assigned a trip? No, because s/he is unqualified.

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Old 11-23-2020 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Being NQ / Not legal isn’t stopping Crew Scheds from assigning SC to said NQ folks.

Crew Scheduling gonna crew schedule.

The most simplistic answer Denny didn't want to look up is one of the steps of coverage in 23 N/O is "Available Qualified pilots"

Of note, a non-qualified pilot can still PCS personal drop.
Old 11-23-2020 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I’ve never seen that but we are talking about assigning/flying a trip not about short call assignment. If this indeed happened it’s a phantom short call assignment and is strictly based on numbers to fill slots of short call. I have been assigned short call when there is absolutely no way I could be used. Can said short call pilot be assigned a trip? No, because s/he is unqualified.

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ive seen it twice his month...two times I’m on SC with another person....same days avail, same bucket, same everything. I get tagged with a trip...when I call Scheds and reminded them the trip should have gone to the other guy IAW the RUO, it took them 6-9 minutes of hammering away on their keyboard before them come back with “oh, it appears he didn’t do CQ, so he is NQ”. When I asked why they are putting people on SQ that are qualified to fly a trip, both times they didn’t have an answer.

it’s possible all 2-3 people getting SC could be NQ...scheduling “thinks” they have people at the ready when they really don’t, and they don’t figure it out until they run the TC for the short notice trip and none of the SC pilots names show up....NOOPS will follow...I saw two domestic NOOPs out of NYC just the other day as I was getting tagged with a 5 day RES trip.

Delta IT is a sh!t show that hampers scheduling ability to correctly do its job....I expect more form a fortune 100 company.

yes I’m chatted with the CPO both times to hightlight scheduling ineptitude.
Old 11-23-2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
ive seen it twice his month...two times I’m on SC with another person....same days avail, same bucket, same everything. I get tagged with a trip...when I call Scheds and reminded them the trip should have gone to the other guy IAW the RUO, it took them 6-9 minutes of hammering away on their keyboard before them come back with “oh, it appears he didn’t do CQ, so he is NQ”. When I asked why they are putting people on SQ that are qualified to fly a trip, both times they didn’t have an answer.

it’s possible all 2-3 people getting SC could be NQ...scheduling “thinks” they have people at the ready when they really don’t, and they don’t figure it out until they run the TC for the short notice trip and none of the SC pilots names show up....NOOPS will follow...I saw two domestic NOOPs out of NYC just the other day as I was getting tagged with a 5 day RES trip.

Delta IT is a sh!t show that hampers scheduling ability to correctly do its job....I expect more form a fortune 100 company.

yes I’m chatted with the CPO both times to hightlight scheduling ineptitude.
Yep. Had something similar happen to me. Expired on landing currency. No NQ on my schedule, I get a call.....Scheduling says, congrats you have a charter to Bulgaria tomorrow. I’m like thanks, but I’m not current. NQAT on my schedule by the end of the day. Bounces scheduled soon after. Delta IT blows and it’s a **** show in scheduling. A lot of times just chasing their tail. I put ZERO stock in reserves avail, SC, coverage ladder, etc, these days.....
Old 11-23-2020 | 01:56 PM
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It’s truly one of the great mysteries with PBS. I’ve had it explained several times and it still makes no sense to me..
Years ago this pilot gets in the hotel van to the airport, I think in MSP, bragging about how he helped write the code for PBS and how it was intentionally complicated so only a select few could get what they wanted. I’m still surprised I resisted the urge to punch him in the back of the neck.
Old 11-23-2020 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
Years ago this pilot gets in the hotel van to the airport, I think in MSP, bragging about how he helped write the code for PBS and how it was intentionally complicated so only a select few could get what they wanted. I’m still surprised I resisted the urge to punch him in the back of the neck.
No pilot at Delta helped write any code for PBS. It’s a vender sourced 3rd party program. Multiple versions are used by many airlines. Airbus bought out the original company that wrote the program and now owns it.
Old 11-23-2020 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
No pilot at Delta helped write any code for PBS. It’s a vender sourced 3rd party program. Multiple versions are used by many airlines. Airbus bought out the original company that wrote the program and now owns it.
I have about 13 years here and I'm still a narrow-body fo. There's a reason why captain went junior when we were hiring. Hint: it's not because pilots would rather be first officers.
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