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FL370esq 11-06-2021 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3319109)
Yes, above a certain amount of time. But I don’t recall the time and can’t find it in the PWA.

Greater than 5 hours and only upon request. See 5.E.1.d.

DWC CAP10 USAF 11-06-2021 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3319109)
Yes, above a certain amount of time. But I don’t recall the time and can’t find it in the PWA.


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 3319112)
Seems like it’s 5 hours

PWA 5.E.1.d "...scheduled for block-in to block-out of more than five hours (at pilots request)"

5:00 = no hotel

5:01 = hotel

hvydvr 11-06-2021 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3319234)
PWA 5.E.1.d "...scheduled for block-in to block-out of more than five hours (at pilots request)"

5:00 = no hotel

5:01 = hotel

Calling fatigued at 4:59 will get you that hotel. Or so I’ve heard.

nothing 11-06-2021 06:52 AM

What Hvydrvr said!,

Scoop 11-06-2021 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3319072)
Just saw a 5 day trip, two long legs a day with perfectly optimized 4 hr+ sits for 13hrs+ duty each day. Pays 32 hrs though so you got that going for ya if you don't fatigue out

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The long sits are heinous and suck the life out of you. I wrote my reps that we need some kind of sit pay. I believe AAL has something like this. 1 for 2 over 2 hours. Sit for 3 hours get a hard 30 minutes over rotation guarantee. Sit for 4 hours get 1 hour. This would disincentive long sits and hopefully make them a rare exception.

This would also make it a lot harder for the company to work around the trip rig as they currently do with 8 + block hour days mixed in with minimal or even no flying days.

Scoop

Trip7 11-06-2021 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by hvydvr (Post 3319238)
Calling fatigued at 4:59 will get you that hotel. Or so I’ve heard.

This technique works very well. Also if you're scheduled for just under 5 hr sit and get in early you can call and get a hotel. Just being able to hit a gym or lie down for 30 mins does wonders for your energy levels during those long sits.

GogglesPisano 11-06-2021 08:16 AM

Or you could just shove a burrito down your gullet and spend 3 hours on APC.

fishforfun 11-06-2021 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3319206)
Greater than 5 hours and only upon request. See 5.E.1.d.

So far all of mine have not required a call, just was on my schedule.

The long sits seemed to really spike in the middle of 2020 when our was limited. It was huge to have a place to go and get out of the uniform and catch a nap.

avi8tor220 11-06-2021 12:04 PM

Anybody have info on the Secure act of 2019 stating you can take up to $5000 withdrawal from your 401k for the birth of a child penalty free?

tennisguru 11-06-2021 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by avi8tor220 (Post 3319403)
Anybody have info on the Secure act of 2019 stating you can take up to $5000 withdrawal from your 401k for the birth of a child penalty free?

Why would you want to do that?


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