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Briefs were never meant to be two students listening to a teacher. Remember flight instructing students that didn't come prepared? There is too much material to learn it all in a brief. I think this will make studying easier and give us more time to discuss the relevant parts of the sim lesson. I also don't think he was lying about throughput, he has always been a straight shooter. Time will tell.

tennisguru

11-10-2021 02:07 PM

I think during the two days of CQ they had the whole TEM umbrella slides AT LEAST 3 times in the pre/post brief stuff. Cutting that down would probably save 20 minutes per session right off the top...

LumberJack

11-10-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3321123)

No pay for E periods is a real bummer. I prefer them from the west coast. Now you work late and yay done by 1am and no pay. Big win for us /sarcasm

West coast pilots only got paid extra for A and F periods didn't they? (4 hours)

tcco94

11-10-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3321127)

West coast pilots only got paid extra for A and F periods didn't they? (4 hours)

mmm... Nope. I just got paid E periods last month and I'm LAX based

Planetrain

11-10-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3321127)

West coast pilots only got paid extra for A and F periods didn't they? (4 hours)

If it’s IQ, you get 2:00 after 0100. 4:00 after 0300. Local time.
If it’s CQ, you get 2:00 after 0100. 4:00 after 0300. Base time.

11.F.7 and 13.

LumberJack

11-10-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3321131)

mmm... Nope. I just got paid E periods last month and I'm LAX based

Sorry I thought you were talking about CQ. Must have been QUAL training you had.

LumberJack

11-10-2021 02:48 PM

What's interesting is the current periods end at 59. The new A starts at 0500 and the E ends at 0100. Contract says between 0100 and 0500 triggers premium pay. Are they interpreting that as 0101 and 0459?

Planetrain

11-10-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3321154)

If you’re done by 01:00:00, you aren’t working between 01:00:00 and 04:59:00.

FangsF15

11-11-2021 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 3320988)

This was my take as well. And I raise the BS flag on no change to throughput….in fact I might be inclined to call that a flat out lie.

This has zero to do with quality and 100% to do with throughput

What you are missing is that those E periods were already being fully used, by 200ish New Hires/month not protected by the PWA time limits. Now, instead of E’s always being FO/FO, they can pair up those two with the CA/CA pairing from the D period instead. There is no throughput gain, just smarter use of what we are already using.

Additionally, I was skeptical as well about the “self study”. However, every SLI I talked with loves the shorter brief. We all show up prepared anyway. The guy/gal who doesn’t is a rare unicorn - or so I’m told. So it’s happening anyways. Having said that, I still think we should get a quid from the company for it :p

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