Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2698995)

Does anybody have a method to determine if a bid month will have a lot of black vs. blue days? I have a primitive method of looking at the chart in the bid package that looks at the fleet, base, and # of trips between 1-14 days. I take the total number of trips and multiply by the average trip length for a general estimate of the total work, and when I compare one month to the other I get ZERO useful information :). I seriously can't figure out why two months with fairly similar flying quantity, ALV, and staffing seem to have such disparate blue/black days. I know there's a bit more vacation to account for outside of summer months but I'm totally perplexed how during the summer even bottom feeders on RES could arrange their schedules however they chose within contractual limits but now that we're in the "slow" season, 28/30 days are black and there are days with numbers like 24 required, 9 available. Appreciate if anybody could shed some light on this subject.

Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 2699646)

Pay question: I have 3 PB days in the bank from a prior Reserve month. If I drop them over a 3 day trip in a subsequent bid period in which I hold a line, what does it pay? Or is it a straight drop for no credit? What happens to bid line guarantee?

Can’t find clear guidance in PWA or ALPA scheduling guidelines.

Thanks in advance!


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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2699660)

It pays the value of the trip you dropped.

Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 2699707)

Thanks, SF.

As a quick follow-on, are you then blocked from flying another trip those days, like an APD? I know you can fly on PB days while on reserve....


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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey (Post 2699723)

I'm trying to figure out 4F1R - Trip removed for company convenience. Had a reroute earlier in the month, basically got sent on a different layover and done before the original trip footprint, so not sure how this would apply.

Silly to look a gift horse in the mouth, I know. Just curious what triggered that.

Originally Posted by Flying Monkey (Post 2699723)

I'm trying to figure out 4F1R - Trip removed for company convenience. Had a reroute earlier in the month, basically got sent on a different layover and done before the original trip footprint, so not sure how this would apply.

Silly to look a gift horse in the mouth, I know. Just curious what triggered that.

Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2699759)

4F1 is the PWA section that governs how you were paid for that rotation and "R" is the code describing why that provision was triggered - a reroute in your case.



4.F.1 states that you will receive pay and credit for the greater of your originally scheduled rotation, or your accumulated credit for the rerouted rotation that you flew.

Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 2699646)

Pay question: I have 3 PB days in the bank from a prior Reserve month. If I drop them over a 3 day trip in a subsequent bid period in which I hold a line, what does it pay? Or is it a straight drop for no credit? What happens to bid line guarantee?

Can’t find clear guidance in PWA or ALPA scheduling guidelines.

Thanks in advance!


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