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Drum 01-16-2022 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3353790)
To be more accurate, we did think they'd do that which is why we have the ACE app and have been told exhaustively to report anytime you get a reroute. I'm not surprised at all that scheduling just does what they want. That's why we need full time ALPA volunteers sitting in schedule and tracking.

Do it not only for yourself, but for you bros and sis's that might have been denied a greenie opportunity form your reroute

they'll get paid too.

TED74 01-16-2022 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3353784)
Another one to file under "we didn't think they would do that." Batch size limitations have made the greenslip coverage process clunky enough that in some cases scheduling has been skipping the process if the senior pilot eligible declines the trip and rerouting pilots instead. That way it "appears" they have followed the coverage ladder when in fact, they have not. ALWAYS file an Ace report if you're rerouted. That is all.

It's a tradeoff. We can have no batch size limitations and hundreds of pilots could have their phone ringing for every green slip that goes out. Or, we could go back to the old days and they can call one by one with 10 minutes between each call. IMHO, we've hit a relative sweet spot. Don't make us all a slave to incessant Delta phone calls because our reroute language is terrible - fix the reroute language.

Personally, I like calls for green slips when it's plausible that I could actually get that green slip, or one of several offered. There's no system that is going to please everyone in every circumstance - particularly when the company doesn't follow the contract anyway. Be careful what you wish for, and don't expect the company to comply with whatever language we have at any given moment. That's too expensive and/or too bothersome for them, and paying grievances for violations we hunt down with our own dues dollars is very much preferable for them.

3 green 01-20-2022 03:26 AM

Anyone else feel like the level of incompetence at almost all Delta Depts is at an all time high. From scheduling, to tracking, ramps, and even the dept that handles late arriving aircraft and managing swaps. It seems to me like we have incompetent people working everywhere at Delta now and passengers are paying the price.

Der Meister 01-20-2022 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3356322)
Anyone else feel like the level of incompetence at almost all Delta Depts is at an all time high. From scheduling, to tracking, ramps, and even the dept that handles late arriving aircraft and managing swaps. It seems to me like we have incompetent people working everywhere at Delta now and passengers are paying the price.

Metrics are all that matter not people. The sooner we all realize that the better.

Stratapilot 01-20-2022 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3356328)
Metrics are all that matter not people. The sooner we all realize that the better.

The moment that happens you become AA. Ask me how I know…

Breadcream 01-20-2022 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Stratapilot (Post 3356334)
The moment that happens you become AA. Ask me how I know…

How do you know?

Stratapilot 01-20-2022 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Breadcream (Post 3356390)
How do you know?

How do YOU know I know?

tennisguru 01-20-2022 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Stratapilot (Post 3356395)
How do YOU know I know?

How do I know you know you know?

Breadcream 01-20-2022 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Stratapilot (Post 3356395)
How do YOU know I know?

Because you asked me to ask you how you know.

Gunfighter 01-20-2022 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3356322)
Anyone else feel like the level of incompetence at almost all Delta Depts is at an all time high. From scheduling, to tracking, ramps, and even the dept that handles late arriving aircraft and managing swaps. It seems to me like we have incompetent people working everywhere at Delta now and passengers are paying the price.

That is what happens when you pay talented and experienced employees to leave. We've had tens of thousands of years worth of experience walk out the doors in the last 18 months. For those of us remaining I'd venture the GAS (give a s...) factor is lower than it has been in over a decade. Do you care more or less about your job performance than you did two years ago? Multiply that answer by 70,000 employees.

*In 2019 Delta employed 90,000 people.


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