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acl65pilot 12-21-2009 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 731002)
Ouch... saw this is daily trip coverage:

Check in 22.20

Day FLT Departs Arrives
21 D1139 ATL 2250 XYZ 2354 1.04

XYZ 5.41/Hotel

22 1850 XYZ 0535 ATL 0641 1.06

Regular 5.15TL 1.06BL
Reserve 5.03TL 1.06BL

Thats a stand up overnight for sure. I'd sleep in the plane. :eek:

This is why you want to stay away from the @#%)(* ATL M88. :D My campaign continues. 10 more days and the AE closes.

(XYZ) = undisclosed nearby airport.

Yuck. I did not even know DAL this crud!

NuGuy 12-21-2009 07:02 PM

Heyas,

Well, another option to make reserve SLIGHTLY better would be a modification of the "time available" system from NWA.

This was usually used for blockholders without a block. You could sit TA at home for the line guarantee or sit in base for the reserve guarantee.

The only proviso is that you were at the top of the list to get called out...no questions asked. But you also usually had 24 hours notice, if not more, to make your trip. It also helped scheduling out by keeping the short call people for the really urgent stuff that popped up at the last minute.

Call it ULC...ultra long call. It would make commuting to reserve almost doable.

But to throw a bone to the fDAL guys.... I got a one day trip stuffed onto my schedule. I used the PCS system to request a PD, and bingo, trip dropped (I had also put it on the swap board). Now THAT was pretty cool.

Nu

iceman49 12-21-2009 07:10 PM

RSV also paid 75hrs at NW

Tycer 12-21-2009 07:49 PM

Anyone heard anything about having a base in Guam and or Narita? Going through the sim here and spoke to Brian Bolt for about thirty minutes. He mentioned that there was discussion about this possibility. Has any one else heard anything? It sounds a little far fetched, but right now I guess anything is possible.

Superpilot92 12-21-2009 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Tycer (Post 731084)
Anyone heard anything about having a base in Guam and or Narita? Going through the sim here and spoke to Brian Bolt for about thirty minutes. He mentioned that there was discussion about this possibility. Has any one else heard anything? It sounds a little far fetched, but right now I guess anything is possible.

There's been lots of talk about it, rumored 10+ 73N out there. Supposedly sometime next year and when the JAL deal gets announced we'll know more depending on the outcome.

Btw, welcome to poster status, now that you're no longer just a lurker you'll quickly need to apply for help as you've officially broken the ice ;)

Superpilot92 12-21-2009 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 731021)
I just sat three days of LC. Cleaned and painted my mudroom and got paid to do it. Tell me this isn't a great job.

yeah that's how it is for us on long call when we could hold it. I can't wait for the new rules to kick in on the 1st. I won't lie though, I had to look up what a mudroom was ;)

buzzpat 12-21-2009 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 730888)
You should be the last one they call, but there are lots of caveats. Probably the biggest thing is that not everyone on the list with lower raw scores are legal for a trip. I don't understand it, but I think the list will show people who are finishing a trip that day, but aren't legal yet. But if there is someone in your same day group (3 days of availablity, 4 days, etc) with a lower raw score who is legal, there should be no reason why they would get called for a trip before you. Now, I'm sure you know that people can sick out or have a problem when scheduling calls, which would give the trip to you.

As I understand it, who the scheduler picks for a trip is not at their discretion - when they need a trip covered, they generate a trip coverage report or something, and it lists pilots by employee number in coverage order to call. The computer figures out legalities, contractual issues and the like.

Thanks Rocky, Scoop and IAFlyer. Merry Christmas bros.

GunshipGuy 12-21-2009 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 730622)
Actually, ACL you bring up a very good point. After speaking to our NWA jumpseaters, it is clear, they do not understand the bid system. Rightfully so. It is new to them.

I even made the comment to one fella, "I see a lawsuit coming after this bid gets released" because I think enough will dork up their bidding and will lose a seat / position because of it.

IMHO, DAL north guys are getting ten-fold the instruction on PBS and bidding than I did as a new hire during the last cycle. Much of it is emailed out as a result of the merger, and thankfully a great effort has been made to get as much information out there as possible to make the transition less painful. Our class was probably the exception, but during indoc who ever was supposed to show up for the class on PBS didn't show that day. There were some slides available for downloading, but all in all, I would guess most new hires had to fend for themselves by using trial and error, and asking around for help in the crew room before flights.

Hopefully, this bank of documentation is kept available for future hires to make their experience a bit easier.

keenster 12-21-2009 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 731132)
IMHO, DAL north guys are getting ten-fold the instruction on PBS and bidding than I did as a new hire during the last cycle. Much of it is emailed out as a result of the merger, and thankfully a great effort has been made to get as much information out there as possible to make the transition less painful. Our class was probably the exception, but during indoc who ever was supposed to show up for the class on PBS didn't show that day. There were some slides available for downloading, but all in all, I would guess most new hires had to fend for themselves by using trial and error, and asking around for help in the crew room before flights.

Hopefully, this bank of documentation is kept available for future hires to make their experience a bit easier.


Well it has not helped very much because they all preached that at DAL south 90 % of pilots bid with only one bid group. So we should only bid with one bid group. What a crock of ----- that was. Until you fully understand the logic you will shoot yourself in the foot as I have twice so it is also trial and error for us as well. Have gone back to multiple bid groups to save my butt.

NuGuy 12-22-2009 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by keenster (Post 731140)
Well it has not helped very much because they all preached that at DAL south 90 % of pilots bid with only one bid group. So we should only bid with one bid group. What a crock of ----- that was. Until you fully understand the logic you will shoot yourself in the foot as I have twice so it is also trial and error for us as well. Have gone back to multiple bid groups to save my butt.

Same here.

Nu


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