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Old 01-19-2010 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
Wouldn't that throw a monkey wretch in the SLI arbitration issue. The old saying of "be careful what you wish for" just might have a new meaning to these folks.

Not trying to change the subject, I just couldn't resist.
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REPORT OF THE DELTA-NORTH MERGER COMMITTEE

Six months ago, the DAL/NWA Dispute Resolution Committee sent all DAL North and South pilots DRC Update 09-01, which outlined the procedures for filing and resolving pilots’ claims concerning the application or interpretation of the Arbitration Award integrating the DAL and NWA pre-merger seniority lists. Since then, representatives of both pre-merger pilot groups have been working to carry out their responsibilities as DRC members under the DRC Letter of Agreement.
Captain .redacted. served as the DRC’s Chairman during 2009. The DRC Letter of Agreement calls for rotating the Chairman’s job between the two pre-merger groups annually and .redacted. has passed the baton to .redacted., as of January 1, 2010.

The first DRC claim was filed by a Delta-North pilot in August. Citing paragraphs 4 & 5 of the conditions and restrictions to the Arbitration Award, it says, “The Co. is taking delivery of B777 aircraft that are replacing B747 aircraft, to the detriment of former NWA pilots.” The two Merger Committees met in ATL on December 8 and tried to settle this claim, but were unable to. We informed our counterparts that we found that the claim fell within the DRC’s jurisdiction and that it had merit. We sent the South DRC representatives a statement of position on December 29.

Our position statement explained that inequities have developed since DCC and the Arbitration Board’s Award. B777 flying has expanded using NRT slots, Japan Fifth Freedom rights, and Asian routes and franchise, as well as the fortress hub in DTW all of which NWA brought to the merger, while B747 flying has contracted. We added that the management of the merged airline is deciding what flying to increase and what to reduce. Given the economic environment prevailing during the last two or three years, it is unlikely that, absent the merger, NWA would have contracted its B747 flying to such an extent while DAL expanded its B777 flying in such a manner. In our view, the Award’s conditions and restrictions mandate that B777 flying should be shared equitably as a result.

The full DRC met in ATL on January 7, and accepted jurisdiction of the claim but deadlocked on whether it had merit. The DRC Letter of Agreement spells out the steps necessary to resolve this dispute through arbitration. The DRC selected Arbitrator Dana Eischen to hear and decide the case and these hearing dates have been scheduled: April 21-22, May 19-20 and June 9.

A second claim was submitted on December 30 by another North pilot. His claim form states: “The pre-merger Northwest Pilots have suffered the loss of more than 200 protected positions, both Captain and First Officer, due to Delta’s decision to retire the 747-200.” This claim is under study by the North DRC representatives and will be handled in accordance with the DRC procedures.

Your DAL-North Merger Committee

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Old 01-19-2010 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Why do I think Tanksley (sp?) etal are involved.
My thoughts exactly....the same group that is trying to sue for the mere pittance that I receive due to targeting DC.
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:46 AM
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Interesting. Check, where was this?
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am not sure what has all the DFW rumors stirred up but as of today there are no plans at all for any expansion in DFW. There are no plans for any type of pilot base however a flight attendant AFP base has been considered several times and I am sure will be looked at again.
Richard Anderson was asked the question about DFW becoming a focus for Delta again. He replied "No, Never"

I think the word used in the question was 'hub', not focus city.
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
My thoughts exactly....the same group that is trying to sue for the mere pittance that I receive due to targeting DC.
I was on the 5pm bus to downtown NRT one night for dinner. Tanksley was "holding court" in the back of the bus talking about that issue with a like minded bunch. I watched to see which way they headed for dinner (towards the spiral staircase) and decided I'd rather do Hero's.

Hey south guys......watch your checkbooks
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am not sure what has all the DFW rumors stirred up but as of today there are no plans at all for any expansion in DFW. There are no plans for any type of pilot base however a flight attendant AFP base has been considered several times and I am sure will be looked at again.
Richard Anderson was asked the question about DFW becoming a focus for Delta again. He replied "No, Never"
Someone want to tell that to the DFW ppl who have been told that there will be expansion out there. The ppl out there are brimming with it.

As for a pilot base, it appears that there are bigger fish to fry at the current time. I agree that you will see a FA base before a pilot base. Think of a focus city on steroids.
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
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REPORT OF THE DELTA-NORTH MERGER COMMITTEE





Six months ago, the DAL/NWA Dispute Resolution Committee sent all DAL North and South pilots DRC Update 09-01, which outlined the procedures for filing and resolving pilots’ claims concerning the application or interpretation of the Arbitration Award integrating the DAL and NWA pre-merger seniority lists. Since then, representatives of both pre-merger pilot groups have been working to carry out their responsibilities as DRC members under the DRC Letter of Agreement.
Captain .redacted. served as the DRC’s Chairman during 2009. The DRC Letter of Agreement calls for rotating the Chairman’s job between the two pre-merger groups annually and .redacted. has passed the baton to .redacted., as of January 1, 2010.

The first DRC claim was filed by a Delta-North pilot in August. Citing paragraphs 4 & 5 of the conditions and restrictions to the Arbitration Award, it says, “The Co. is taking delivery of B777 aircraft that are replacing B747 aircraft, to the detriment of former NWA pilots.” The two Merger Committees met in ATL on December 8 and tried to settle this claim, but were unable to. We informed our counterparts that we found that the claim fell within the DRC’s jurisdiction and that it had merit. We sent the South DRC representatives a statement of position on December 29.

Our position statement explained that inequities have developed since DCC and the Arbitration Board’s Award. B777 flying has expanded using NRT slots, Japan Fifth Freedom rights, and Asian routes and franchise, as well as the fortress hub in DTW all of which NWA brought to the merger, while B747 flying has contracted. We added that the management of the merged airline is deciding what flying to increase and what to reduce. Given the economic environment prevailing during the last two or three years, it is unlikely that, absent the merger, NWA would have contracted its B747 flying to such an extent while DAL expanded its B777 flying in such a manner. In our view, the Award’s conditions and restrictions mandate that B777 flying should be shared equitably as a result.

The full DRC met in ATL on January 7, and accepted jurisdiction of the claim but deadlocked on whether it had merit. The DRC Letter of Agreement spells out the steps necessary to resolve this dispute through arbitration. The DRC selected Arbitrator Dana Eischen to hear and decide the case and these hearing dates have been scheduled: April 21-22, May 19-20 and June 9.

A second claim was submitted on December 30 by another North pilot. His claim form states: “The pre-merger Northwest Pilots have suffered the loss of more than 200 protected positions, both Captain and First Officer, due to Delta’s decision to retire the 747-200.” This claim is under study by the North DRC representatives and will be handled in accordance with the DRC procedures.


Your DAL-North Merger Committee
Hewego! Welcome to the "New Delta." (sigh)

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Old 01-19-2010 | 08:53 AM
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And so it begins! It costs money, lots of it, for the DRC's to meet in nice resort hotels, eat filets, drink cabernet, and smoke big cigars. ALPA will not be able to afford these expenses on the mere pittance that they remove from our checks every month. This money will have to come from sowewhere. So boys, prepare to have your checkbooks lightened!
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Interesting. Check, where was this?
e-mail to all north pilots.
Reposted on the DALPA forum by a north guy.
Old 01-19-2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Interesting. Check, where was this?
Ferd,

It is an email from the DAL-N Merger committee. I think it's their final letter.
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