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NuGuy 01-30-2010 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 754825)
I'm kinda liking the idea of time and a half for over 80 hours. My guess is that a few more people would pick up time to over 80 but I'm betting there would not be a huge effect on greenslips. Look at how many guys go over 80 every month for straight pay now. It would also spread the largesse around a little more evenly.

Denny

Heyas Denny,

There were a couple of levels of "premium" at NWA:

1) There was "regular" premium pay. This was 1.5 for ALL credit above 80, and it didn't matter if it was reserve, regular or whatever. Once you ticked over 80, overtime started.

2) Then there were designated "premium pay" trips, VERY similar to the current GS system. These paid 1.5, even if you weren't over 80. If you WERE over 80, then they paid 1.5 x 1.5. Ka CHING!

3) There was voluntary and involuntary callout. You put your name into the computer, and you could designate what kind of trips you wanted. Voluntary callout paid 1.5, and again subject to another 1.5 over 80.

Our involuntary call out (IE inverse assignment) was extremely limited. Only those in the bottom %10 of the blockholders in any category (base, seat and AC, with a minumum of 5, but a maximum of 10 pilots) could be involuntarily called out, and it paid 2x (again subject to the premium at 80).

This really made for the best of all worlds. Unlike the current GS system, which really only favors those that live in base, this system "spread the wealth around", and permitted some long term arrangement of schedules to capitalize on overtime.

But it also provided local pilots some short call advantage by grabbing some premium trips that popped up, very similar to the current GS system. And man, if you went over 80 with them, it was REALLY worth your while.

THIS is the system we should have adopted.

Nu

keenster 01-30-2010 11:48 PM

Word on the street. Absolutely no more 747-400s. New JAL CEO put the brakes on the DAL - JAL alliance as of now. 65% chance that it is us. Possible comuter jump seat book in future. That's all for now. Tokoyo over and out.

acl65pilot 01-31-2010 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by keenster (Post 754941)
Word on the street. Absolutely no more 747-400s. New JAL CEO put the brakes on the DAL - JAL alliance as of now. 65% chance that it is us. Possible comuter jump seat book in future. That's all for now. Tokoyo over and out.

As many have stated the best deals can fall apart at the last minute. If true, oh well. If not oh well. We just fly em.

acl65pilot 01-31-2010 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 754848)
Our engagement with management has been productive for both sides since the hostile takeover. The big question is can it deliver an industry leading contract for the pilots working for the industry's leading airline?

I have no doubt, as long as we pilots pull together and not apart, that we will ultimately get an industry leading contract. We can get it by working with management, which would nice and create a great deal less uncertainty for the company, investors, corporate travel departments, the traveling public, politicians, etc., or we'll get it the old fashion way, with all the costs, loss of revenue and disruption associated with it.

One path will ensure continued positive engagement, the other distrust and acrimony.

The fork in the road is approaching. We're currently on the road less traveled, it's a nicer road, but it's also a toll road and it's management's turn to pony up, or we'll get off it.

Agreed. I just think that there are some pilots that do not beleive that we will get off the road even when it is needed. Convince them (the skeptical pilots) of that(willingness to abandon the current tacit) and support of the MEC goes through the roof. Just my .02

johnso29 01-31-2010 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by keenster (Post 754941)
Word on the street. Absolutely no more 747-400s. New JAL CEO put the brakes on the DAL - JAL alliance as of now. 65% chance that it is us. Possible comuter jump seat book in future. That's all for now. Tokoyo over and out.

Huh. At NATCO yesterday I heard 8 more. Funny how the rumors fly.

satchip 01-31-2010 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 754920)
Really?

Anyone ever tell you that you look a lot like a video poker machine?

Carl

that is just a clever disguise to preserve my web board anonymity. :D

NERD 01-31-2010 04:27 AM

I know he is a friend of yours BUT, as cheesy as he is he would fit in perfect at WN. Let them have him.






Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 754553)
I was going respond to this, thanks for digging it up. He is in the pool at WN. :D


acl65pilot 01-31-2010 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 754960)
Huh. At NATCO yesterday I heard 8 more. Funny how the rumors fly.

Well 90 crews does work out to about eight jets or four city pairs.

acl65pilot 01-31-2010 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 754967)
I know he is a friend of yours BUT, as cheesy as he is he would fit in perfect at WN. Let them have him.


He is an actor, so I am sure the show went crazy with that. Who knows. Who cares.

johnso29 01-31-2010 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 754968)
Well 90 crews does work out to about eight jets or four city pairs.

Is 90 crews significant? What dot(s) am I missing?


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